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Response to stevenleser (Reply #31)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:44 AM

39. I think you should consider carefully the

question of viability.

The definition of viability should be the ability to sustain life without assistance. Unfortunately, the law disagrees and includes "albeit with artificial aid" provisos (Roe v Wade). Frankly, that's a legal loophole the size of a tank that I find really problematic.

I take a pretty hard line on this, because the boundary keeps shifting as medical science "improves" (that in quotes because I am unconvinced that it is always an improvement to maintain function at the potential cost of quality of life). My simple test is this: if you take away the medical bells and whistles, would a pre-term infant survive?

The reason I think this is important to consider is because of comments like yours - viability tied to the right to terminate. When I was of breeding age, it was highly unlikely that even a 30 week fetus would have survived outside the womb, because we didn't have the tools to create outside the womb an environment that would provide that artificial aid. Today we do and the gestational age keeps shrinking as new techniques are invented. Every day you read about 23 and 24 week fetuses being "saved" by intensive and expensive neo-natal care. How much longer before they "save" a 22 or even 20 week fetus?

Those medical advances shouldn't change the argument of when a fetus becomes independent of the woman carrying it, because it is a back road to undermining a woman's right to choose.

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