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disarmed? i'll bet he's still fighting and 'killing his own people' the good old fashioned way. KG Sep 2013 #1
The day the agreement was signed, Assad bombed Damascus. n/t n2doc Sep 2013 #78
Which is what the Syrians thought also, which is why they were ready to make a deal. DCBob Sep 2013 #2
the attack would have happened by labor day if the UK hadn't backed out magical thyme Sep 2013 #5
Yeah, but there would not have been a deal unless it was clear we were serious. DCBob Sep 2013 #8
we were serious. I wrote all my congress people about my red line. and I meant it. magical thyme Sep 2013 #12
So "go ahead Assad...use all the chemical weapons you like" ...."we won't interfere at all!" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #27
why are you attributing nonexistant quotes to my post? magical thyme Sep 2013 #32
quoting to show that I am not saying it... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #34
sorry, but I never even implied such a thing. magical thyme Sep 2013 #106
No it's NOT all in my head....you just cannot accept the conclusions of your policy... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #111
none of those would have resulted in Assad freely giving up his chemical weapons... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #36
Nonviolent? You wouldn't even know about Syrian CW if we hadn't fueled regime change & civil war. leveymg Sep 2013 #46
Assad wouldn't even admit that he had them... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #47
They would be irrelevant (except to Israel) had there not been rebels closing in on central Damascus leveymg Sep 2013 #48
Funny how these DU experts on Syria never posted anything about the country Generic Other Sep 2013 #51
I'm getting the feeling this is just an interlude before we pivot toward Iran. leveymg Sep 2013 #55
I gauge the war talk by observing my magazine subscriptions Generic Other Sep 2013 #57
The same poster told me to apologize to Kerry for something I never said. neverforget Sep 2013 #86
I am sure John Kerry is waiting up nights for your call,.... Vanje Sep 2013 #88
Being accused of saying something that you have not done is an asshole thing neverforget Sep 2013 #97
You don't know what was in the plan to disarm Syrians MCs, give us a break. Every idea was gone lumpy Sep 2013 #114
It's sad that you have to even.... dennis4868 Sep 2013 #161
What you say is true. former9thward Sep 2013 #3
I used the word "disarm" pretty loosely to fit in the headline...I meant disarm of chemical weapons magical thyme Sep 2013 #10
so instead of take the chance to move us even closer to 100% removal of chemical weapons.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #58
We are already a hypocrite. former9thward Sep 2013 #63
According to the article it has not been fully confirmed that the Syrian rebels used chemical lumpy Sep 2013 #121
I didn't say they have done nothing. former9thward Sep 2013 #147
Let's just say that a checked swing that results in the equivalent of a bunt single looks like... stevenleser Sep 2013 #4
Shhhhhh, it was all part of the plan LittleBlue Sep 2013 #6
Who really gives a rat's ass about Cameron's "embarrassment"? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #28
He was Obama's biggest foreign supporter on this LittleBlue Sep 2013 #41
Sooo? How do you know Cameron wasn't a sacrifice? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #44
Oh dear LittleBlue Sep 2013 #45
Gad, you're stuck in a chess game while a new game is on. lumpy Sep 2013 #126
Chess game......so old hat lumpy Sep 2013 #124
Absolutely, magical thyme. And, I think that this was a classic case of Th1onein Sep 2013 #7
Oh, pleeeeze, the civil war was going on well before Snowden was an thought in the NSA. Don't Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #11
Oh boy, I've heard it all. LOL lumpy Sep 2013 #130
We do not know if Putin and Obama discussed during the G20 Summit Meeting. Some wants to claim the Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #9
It's ODS to even have this thread treestar Sep 2013 #75
Pom Pom! Vanje Sep 2013 #90
I don't know what's wrong with giving a Democratic President treestar Sep 2013 #91
Being positive is a fine thing. Vanje Sep 2013 #94
It's not disagreement treestar Sep 2013 #98
Yep dennis4868 Sep 2013 #165
You have plenty of rights. n/t QC Sep 2013 #103
That's the way I remember it plus the UN inspectors were ordered to get out of Syria... Little Star Sep 2013 #13
Must. Not. Give. President. Credit. Skinner Sep 2013 #14
He gets partial credit. We *made* him do it. nt magical thyme Sep 2013 #15
Who is "we"? this is ODS in its finest form Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #100
we the people who wrote to congress 100:1 against a military strike, per to several congressmen magical thyme Sep 2013 #105
This is propaganda, you are feeding out of GOP feed trough. Do you think Obama did not Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #117
um, I'm fully capable of writing more than 1 email to my representatives. And since when is magical thyme Sep 2013 #153
Keep playing the 1% game, you will find you are not winning and will not win while playing Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #160
the 1% game is to attack Syria as the road to attacking Iran magical thyme Sep 2013 #163
You need to look at the big picture and not the parts which is flashy and catches your eye. If the Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #168
1. I consider war very much part of the big picture. 2. I can multitask. Get it? magical thyme Sep 2013 #170
Save your stamps on the Summers nomination. Vanje Sep 2013 #164
Just saw it! WOO - FREAKIN' - HOO!!!!!!!!!! magical thyme Sep 2013 #167
Is this "ODS" the latest BOG talking point? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #113
what they do not understand is Skittles Sep 2013 #123
That's "magical" thinking .. you didn't "make" President Obama do Cha Sep 2013 #133
Obama himself said that we must make him do...whatever. magical thyme Sep 2013 #151
The thing is President Obama wanted Assad to give up his chem weapons.. Cha Sep 2013 #155
I don't question that Obama put force on the table. magical thyme Sep 2013 #162
You have the timeline down Caretha Sep 2013 #187
I actually think Skinner's post had merit. He reads DU. nm Cha Sep 2013 #188
Is there a Caretha Sep 2013 #190
Its a good thing Vanje Sep 2013 #169
Even an ardent Obama supporter would have to admit there was a heaping dose of this: Marr Sep 2013 #17
Wrong. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #29
So you think. lumpy Sep 2013 #135
Excellent cartoon. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #140
Thank you Skinner. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #18
Ever. n/t Scurrilous Sep 2013 #19
Welcome to DU3...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #20
Bwahahaha!!! +1000 JoePhilly Sep 2013 #22
Cause we all know he is god nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #26
Cause we all know that he is not the devil BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #31
This *was* classic seat of pants diplomacy nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #35
In the less ProSense Sep 2013 #38
See these links about Kerry's history in Syria and with Assad BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #52
I am sorry nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #56
Talking about "pom poms" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #66
The real big picture is that we are not as powerful as we think we are nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #82
"The real big picture is that we are not as powerful as we think we are" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #95
Getting electorate out nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #99
"voters turn against the two party offerings and go third party. " BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #101
People are starting to speak granger revolt nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #107
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #129
You ProSense Sep 2013 #69
Assad didn't - it's assumable he did not want to give up his treestar Sep 2013 #77
Yes well stated lumpy Sep 2013 #137
that's what it takes to get any credit for what you do? treestar Sep 2013 #76
Must not...that would screw up their narrative that he is an "evil evil man" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #30
I noticed you used quotes there. Marr Sep 2013 #59
sometimes when you use quotes...it means someone else is saying it...not the person making the VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #60
Authors of fiction use quotes when writing dialog. Vanje Sep 2013 #62
the poster was engaging the way she wanted... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #131
for anything malaise Sep 2013 #39
Or Must Claim President Hires, Trains, Arms Al Qaeda, Aids & Comforts Enemy. nt DevonRex Sep 2013 #67
So, this is Obama Underground after all? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #194
"Had the UK voted for a military strike back on Aug. 30, the attack would have already taken place." ProSense Sep 2013 #16
Great post and 100000000000% true. demgrrrll Sep 2013 #21
Perfect response! JoePhilly Sep 2013 #24
He announced he'd seek congressional approval on Aug. 31, *after* the UK backed out unexpectedly magical thyme Sep 2013 #40
And like I said, ProSense Sep 2013 #42
+1 and that's why it is ODS, not a principled disagreement. nt treestar Sep 2013 #81
There are so many Assad protectors and Putin lovers around.. the anti-Obamas! Cha Sep 2013 #136
Hair-on-fire DU OPs stopped Obama from starting WWIII!!!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2013 #23
they really do think they are THAT influential don't they? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #33
That's how they maintain their personal sense of win-win JoePhilly Sep 2013 #50
^^^THIS!^^^ BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #54
They also made Obama end DADT. He was NEVER going to end it ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #199
... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #89
Thread Killer. I would say you're the thread winner but why claim such a crappy prize? Number23 Sep 2013 #120
Hear hear! great white snark Sep 2013 #175
no. the people who wrote to and called their representatives 100:1 against military action magical thyme Sep 2013 #49
Of course people did BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #64
did you even read the post I was replying to? magical thyme Sep 2013 #104
Did you even consider what the poster was trying to say? BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #173
the poster said I wrote that DUers stopped the war by posting on DU. magical thyme Sep 2013 #174
No, the poster wrote about "OPs" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #182
"Hair-on-fire DU OPs stopped Obama from starting WWIII!!!!!!" magical thyme Sep 2013 #189
LOL!!! DevonRex Sep 2013 #68
Obama reads DU daily to see what he should do treestar Sep 2013 #83
I never suggested DU stopped Obama magical thyme Sep 2013 #108
I don't see anyone thoughtfully giving him "full credit" bhikkhu Sep 2013 #25
errrrr...so much conjecture Sheepshank Sep 2013 #37
People can believe a conspiracy of nations demwing Sep 2013 #43
Do these skills to see the future extend to the lottery numbers? mythology Sep 2013 #53
,,,,,,,,,,,,, Vanje Sep 2013 #61
That comes ProSense Sep 2013 #65
+infinity BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #70
Good explanation treestar Sep 2013 #85
President Obama's Lucky Score Card.. so far. Cha Sep 2013 #141
DU never disappoints iandhr Sep 2013 #71
There would have never been a diplomatic deal... iandhr Sep 2013 #72
I don't see why it's hard for Democrats to give credit to Democrats treestar Sep 2013 #73
There's reality, and then there's "Obama is superman" spin. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #74
President Obama isn't "superman." Did he achieve his objective with Syria? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #80
oh FFS the POTUS listened to the will of the American people azurnoir Sep 2013 #96
Spare me the outrage. ProSense Sep 2013 #102
No outrage just facts azurnoir Sep 2013 #186
keep hating heaven05 Sep 2013 #79
Exactly. obxhead Sep 2013 #84
THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2013 #87
"..it may be that they had planned that from day 1, but if you believe that..." cheapdate Sep 2013 #92
okay, great. how does the vote in parliament play into this? frylock Sep 2013 #109
Most likely as the OP suggested it would have. cheapdate Sep 2013 #115
so then, obviously, this whole episode wasn't scripted as is being pushed by the bog. frylock Sep 2013 #116
Maybe so maybe not. Impossible to say for certain. Likely not, as I said, but possibly so. cheapdate Sep 2013 #118
I keep reading this on DU Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #93
early reporting... magical thyme Sep 2013 #138
I asked for proof Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #144
"There was no debate at the Saturday meeting that a military response is necessary." magical thyme Sep 2013 #148
This proves nothing of what you stated. Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #152
I think if the UK had voted yes, we'd have attacked by now. magical thyme Sep 2013 #156
So now you 'think' if the UK Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #171
opinion was always implied. magical thyme Sep 2013 #172
"to those giving Obama full credit for disarming Syria without violence ... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #179
score one for the grammar police. magical thyme Sep 2013 #181
Stating something as a fact Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #183
Taking a different view polynomial Sep 2013 #110
This is preposterous, it would've taken weeks to move military assets. joshcryer Sep 2013 #112
destroyers for cruise missile attack were moved into place very early on. magical thyme Sep 2013 #143
nothing happens without Nimitz joshcryer Sep 2013 #157
We did all this and more ten years ago. mattclearing Sep 2013 #119
I distinctly remember my shock 10 years ago when 80% of Americans favored attacking Iraq magical thyme Sep 2013 #145
You can't have it both ways. LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #122
it was both the disdain of the Brits and the American people Skittles Sep 2013 #125
It was the superb playing of the hand he was dealt by this Administration, led by the PRESIDENT LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #127
uh huh Skittles Sep 2013 #128
you know it LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #132
Do you seriously believe Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #196
Um, after the UK backed out, Obama said he would go it alone magical thyme Sep 2013 #150
I see where you got the word MAGICAL from Skittles Sep 2013 #197
It doesn't matter. kentuck Sep 2013 #134
Which proves that some leadership always has preplanned options up it's sleeve. lumpy Sep 2013 #149
Syria's chemical weapons fadedrose Sep 2013 #139
I think your analysis is solid, faderose. Cha Sep 2013 #146
Thank you, but I forgot the photo of the Pres & Putin fadedrose Sep 2013 #195
That jump starts the imagination.. Cha Sep 2013 #198
K&R Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2013 #142
You could have shortened this Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #154
Shorter still: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #158
... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #191
+100 JoePhilly Sep 2013 #200
I know this is an anti Obama website dennis4868 Sep 2013 #159
This is an Obama hate site? Th1onein Sep 2013 #178
All you have to do is look at the front page. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #184
You never loved Obama bigwillq Sep 2013 #166
Or facts. great white snark Sep 2013 #177
. ProSense Sep 2013 #180
.... bigwillq Sep 2013 #185
Is that right, now? Th1onein Sep 2013 #193
Pure speculation. No one except Obama and Kerry actually know what went on or what the plans OregonBlue Sep 2013 #176
Um, no. gulliver Sep 2013 #192
Also, I don't distinguish customerserviceguy Sep 2013 #201
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