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Maedhros

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22. I'm confused.

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:25 PM

Sep 2013

The story so far is that Snowden traveled to Hong Kong and then on to Moscow en route to an undetermined destination (originally cited as possibly Iceland). Upon arrival at the Moscow airport the heat was turned up on Russia to extradite Snowden to the U.S. and he feared to leave the airport lest he be detained and deported. Multiple requests were made by Snowden for asylum in South America but none were granted. Eventually an asylum arrangement was reached with Russia with the condition that Snowden not leak any more information.

How does

...no agreement was reached to shelter him and he decided to come to Russia on his own without warning.

prove that Snowden was working for the Russians? It fits the prior narrative. All it shows is that he attempted to negotiate an asylum agreement prior to traveling to Moscow, which is entirely understandable. It does not imply that Snowden was spying for the Russians.

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Whistleblower My Ass: Snowden's Russia Connection Confirmed by Putin [View all] michigandem58 Sep 2013 OP

Here we go again hobbit709 Sep 2013 #1

I know, right? nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #57

Can't we all get along... nikto Sep 2013 #83

this slime reflects badly on Obama Enrique Sep 2013 #2

Obama wrote this? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #10

of course not Enrique Sep 2013 #44

Wow. Major logic fail here! CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #62

Not a logic fail. It really does make you all look ridiculous. Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #72

Amen. nt tsuki Sep 2013 #104

I liked your old username much better. bunnies Sep 2013 #3

definition of a traitor would be.... seabeyond Sep 2013 #4

As usual shenmue Sep 2013 #5

Savior of our country? HangOnKids Sep 2013 #95

So in a screed about not trusting Russia or Putin Union Scribe Sep 2013 #6

So the clod who writes this blog believes Russia when cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #7

DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #8

Yes, it was not for nothing that snowden was praising Russia on Human Rights.. Cha Sep 2013 #9

That blog is really creepy leftstreet Sep 2013 #11

This poster pimps his blog here (and probably everyplace else he's allowed) in every post. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #13

It's like Joseph Goebbels publishing Teen Beat leftstreet Sep 2013 #16

Now THAT just made me burst out laughing! 7962 Sep 2013 #23

The blog belongs to michigandem? Maedhros Sep 2013 #25

agreed -- it smacks of Tucker Carlson grasswire Sep 2013 #43

not creepier than Snowden and his human rights champion, Putin. Whisp Sep 2013 #63

Don't you have a war to sell? /nt Marr Sep 2013 #12

Cool story!! .... So how does this change the fact the NSA is spying on us illegally? davidn3600 Sep 2013 #14

It doesn't sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #26

How is does the NSA spy on us illegally? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #29

He is talking in the pre-9/11 meaning of the word. Pholus Sep 2013 #68

You have the wrong information, try reading the Fourth Amendment and then the FISA Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #69

And then amended after. blackspade Sep 2013 #73

If you was getting creditable news and know the correct information then you would know it is not Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #74

So the EFF acquired documents from the FISA court that are incorrect? blackspade Sep 2013 #77

You are upside down on this, again read and understand the Fourth Amendment and read Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #84

I've read them. The parts I'm allowed to at least. Pholus Sep 2013 #87

You didn't answer my questions. blackspade Sep 2013 #89

Kick Sand Wind Sep 2013 #15

K&R! nt sheshe2 Sep 2013 #17

Oh, look, it's the cut-n-run liar posting his lies again - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #18

Wall Street Journal: (Haha, Putin is a fucking liar) Snowden couldn't go to Cuba DevonRex Sep 2013 #19

what f**king idiot did not know his passport could be revolked if he committed a crime in the US? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #33

Oh hell. He was an FSB agent all along. Russia was his planned destination. DevonRex Sep 2013 #47

Are you saying Snowden did nit know his passport could be revoked? Then ignorance of the laws is Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #54

No. I'm saying that he knew it would not matter DevonRex Sep 2013 #58

Certainly Seems Plausible Skraxx Sep 2013 #66

Besides the fact DevonRex Sep 2013 #75

Don't recall having to show my passport to leave a country truebluegreen Sep 2013 #42

Use your head. DevonRex Sep 2013 #56

Of course, it was a planned fake out that willfully goes Whoosh Cha Sep 2013 #59

What more does Putin have to do? Put it on Times Square? DevonRex Sep 2013 #71

Not according to reports I've seen truebluegreen Sep 2013 #85

Most countries other than the US do passport stamps on exit Recursion Sep 2013 #98

I had to show my passport leftynyc Sep 2013 #101

I've had to show it to leave Renew Deal Sep 2013 #107

I think you can make good money if your ass is a whistleblower. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #20

You beat me to my post. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #40

It's already been done. QC Sep 2013 #81

Here, pull my finger. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #41

Does your ass play those 80's style MIDI tunes like they had in some car horns back then? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #45

This should be posted in LBN Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #21

Or better yet zeemike Sep 2013 #24

I'm confused. Maedhros Sep 2013 #22

Dammit! sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #32

No logic behind your thesis. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #27

Consider the source pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #30

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #34

Snowden's first name is Eric? giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #60

Thanks for catching my error. Snowden's first name is Edward. Sorry. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #92

I had no idea... giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #99

Whoa! There's no need for gratuitous snark. pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #61

Thanks for the clarification and background. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #91

#2 is what shows us he was not a whistleblower treestar Sep 2013 #36

Read up on that WPAct. It turns out to be little use. Recent news article on HP explaining that. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #37

Snowden is a traitor he gave our national security secrets to Russia kimbutgar Sep 2013 #28

Can you show any credible evidence for your strong assertions? Other than innuendo (went to Moscow). Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #48

No he did not. zeemike Sep 2013 #55

Ummmm... Adrahil Sep 2013 #103

And it is with Greenwald and probably other places too zeemike Sep 2013 #105

That's not the only information he has.... Adrahil Sep 2013 #106

And you know this how? zeemike Sep 2013 #108

I seriously doubt that if he gave.... blackspade Sep 2013 #76

You don't think the world has known the US is spying on them for a long time? kimbutgar Sep 2013 #86

Of course I do, that was my point. blackspade Sep 2013 #90

Question, Is the Government spying on us? Savannahmann Sep 2013 #31

Obama said No leftstreet Sep 2013 #35

Another Snowden circle jerk mick063 Sep 2013 #38

Snowden is a hero Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #39

putin`s interview is on rt`s youtube page madrchsod Sep 2013 #46

still slandering snowden to try to prop up the president? Doctor_J Sep 2013 #49

Oh, look. Another fountain of bullshit propaganda, woo me with science Sep 2013 #50

Yup +1 Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #67

Well, I LIKE to be spied on, legally or not. And I LIKE war, of aggression or not. delrem Sep 2013 #51

Unrec for McCarthyist propaganda. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #52

K&R stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #53

The Snowed Ones are not gonna like this one bit. Whisp Sep 2013 #64

And your point is exactly what? Swede Atlanta Sep 2013 #65

While this is an interesting addition to the story..... blackspade Sep 2013 #70

Is that a request? n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #78

Good grief. 99Forever Sep 2013 #79

You blow a whistle using your ass? Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #80

Tweet: Greenwald: "Obama forced Snowden to stay in Russia by revoking his passport!" whine lie whine Cha Sep 2013 #82

... sheshe2 Sep 2013 #88

Greenwald lied and threw in a major whine.. what's Cha Sep 2013 #93

Thanks Cha, sheshe2 Sep 2013 #102

Precisely, she.. Cha Sep 2013 #109

K&R krawhitham Sep 2013 #94

I believe Snowden a helluva lot more than the NSA. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #96

so you believe Russia is a bastion of human rights like Snowy said? Whisp Sep 2013 #97

These people do not live in the real world! WTF is he supposed to do to blow the whistle Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #100