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Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:09 AM
annm4peace (5,671 posts)
21. very insightful comments
there are so many levels of depression.. so many different reasons we have it.
When I had severe depression only medication helped.. and luckily I had a good psychiatrist and understanding friends.
when I got moved away from the horrible anxiety I was advised to take a medication class.. Not do it on my own via tapes.
It was incredible. it made the negative thoughts float away and detached so I can talk these negative thoughts away.
I had no idea how bad it was till these negative thoughts lifted.
10 years later I am reducing the anti depression meds to where I won't take them.
Through a wonderful Dr I found out about how there are some natural supplements that really help with both mood and side effects of reducing meds.
I thought and had read that I had to get off the anti-depressant before I tried the 5HTP but the Dr said in his 10 years no one ever had Seratonin syndrome.
Here is what the Dr wrote.
I suspect that you may need both 5-HTP (the presursor of serotonin) and L-Tyrosine (the precursor of dopamine and norepinephrine). Both can be purchased at Swanson Health Products and most good nutrition stores. I usually started my patients off with 50 mg of 5-HTP per day and gradually increased the dose to as much as 200 or 300 mg per day in split doses (5-HTP comes in 50 and 100 mg capsules) and started the Tyrosine at 500 mg per day (in the AM, since it raises dopamine, norepinephrine and adrenalin, all stimulants). The 5-HTP usually has a sedating effect in most people, so evening is usually better, although I have had some of my patients say it energized them, in which case it would be better to take in during the day.
I suppose that I mentioned to you that a good quality multivitamin/multimineral, plus a good B-Complex vitamin preparation are important, as is the use of Magnesium (400 mg once or twice a day) for optimal metabolism of the amino acids into their neurotransmitters. And of course, Omega-3 (Fish Oil) 3000 mg per day).
Joseph Glenmullen, MD (author of Prozac Backlash - which I highly recommend your reading) wrote a second book The Antidepressant Solution, in which he outlined useful ways to wean off psych drugs safely. He particularly warned against alternate day tapering for quick-acting drugs like Wellbutrin and Effexor.
Glenmullen doesn't seem to talk about brain nutrient therapy in his book, which might be the reason that he recommended a much longer period of tapering than I did for my nutrient supplemented patients. My firm belief is that the brain nutrient therapy successfully ameliorated the withdrawal effects.
another good book about nutrition and mental health is The Crazy Makers.
what works for one person might not work for another but I have told 3 other people of these supplements for depression and they also helped the others.
But of course you should always talk it over with your Dr. or find a Dr who is open to holistic medicine.
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