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Xithras

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19. It's not that they "support Assad", but that they want him to win.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 01:00 PM
Sep 2013

This is nothing new. As the rebellion has become increasingly fundamentalist and some of the goals of the modern insurgency have become more well known, many Syrian's have begun to fear the rebels more than the Assad regime. There have been a number of outside interviews with Assad soldiers over the last year, and most journalists have asked various soldiers why they fight for Assad. Most of the answers are some variety of "I don't like Assad, but the rebels want to make Syria a sharia state", or "I want democracy in Syria, but the rebels don't want democracy any more than Assad does", or the ever popular "I don't fight for Assad, I fight because the rebels want to destroy my country."

In spite of the negative American perception about Syria because of their poor relations with Israel, the reality is that Syria is a relatively affluent, modern, and progressive country by middle eastern standards. While a very small part of the rebellion would like to see Syria become a European-style democracy, most of the rebellion is aiming for something more akin to a Gulf-state style Islamist republic (similar to Yemen or pre-coup Egypt), and a substantial number are aiming for something far darker. The vast majority of Syrian's may not like Assad, but they like the pro-Saudi vision of the rebels even less.

Report to NATO: 70% of Syrians support Assad [View all] Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 OP
the article is 3 months old. Assad isn't currently "winning". It would be great to find something KittyWampus Sep 2013 #1
Yes, I would too KW. nt Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #2
This was reported to NATO, not done by NATO maddezmom Sep 2013 #3
Yes, the OP link said the same thing. nt Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #6
I don't think that's accurate. David__77 Sep 2013 #4
Why? He had about 60% popular support in Jan 2012 before the Syrians caught a glimpse of the rebels Catherina Sep 2013 #14
The US is not in favor of regime change. The US favors "Assad change." MADem Sep 2013 #5
But Yemen's government is cooperative with us though. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #7
Well, Yemen is no paradise, even today. They continue to struggle, but MADem Sep 2013 #8
My request to you, if you have time in next few days, is to start an OP on this subject- KittyWampus Sep 2013 #9
Actually, the hope was that he'd be persuaded to pack and leave long ago...but the ebb and flow of MADem Sep 2013 #12
His pals in Russia also don't seem to be delivering those fighter jets he hasn't paid for. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #13
With 'friends' like that.... MADem Sep 2013 #24
Their other option is theocratic rule most likely under Sharia law. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #10
They're waiting for us with flowers I tell ya! Yemen too can't wait to thank us for the drone love Catherina Sep 2013 #11
We still have a problem with that "ends justifying the means" thing. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #16
Gee, I thought it was 97%. moondust Sep 2013 #15
Why are you posting wing-nut drivel on DU? ellisonz Sep 2013 #17
Oh for pete's sake, get a grip. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #22
Really? Really, really? *pre-emptive facepalm* ellisonz Sep 2013 #25
And you're still saying nothing to show that the fact isn't true. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #27
I rendered your argument baseless and laughably un-sourced. ellisonz Sep 2013 #30
The premise is that a small minority are in oppostion to Assad. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #32
Show me your source to establish it! ellisonz Sep 2013 #34
That's not what proving a negative means. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #37
lol - I'm coining a new term to describe such an argument - "anti-logic." ellisonz Sep 2013 #41
Fine, you keep looking for a stat that will refute the one given Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #43
Here's something from the Guardian... David__77 Sep 2013 #33
Columnist, not the Guardian per say... ellisonz Sep 2013 #36
OK, well I meant it was a better source. David__77 Sep 2013 #38
So in short, it is not a good source. n/t ellisonz Sep 2013 #39
It's better than no data. As polling data generally is. David__77 Sep 2013 #42
They will love our humanitarian bombs. woo me with science Sep 2013 #18
It's not that they "support Assad", but that they want him to win. Xithras Sep 2013 #19
When you torture/rape/execute those who oppose you... FBaggins Sep 2013 #20
They MUST love Assad: look at the results of their free and fair election in 2007 brooklynite Sep 2013 #21
Since you edited, I'll edit too. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #23
Did they poll the 2 million refugees, too? blm Sep 2013 #26
Maybe someone should be asking them. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #29
Aside from the fact that no poll or survey done in Syria under the current conditions Daniel537 Sep 2013 #28
What it means (to me) is, Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #31
Report: 70% of germans support their leader, therefore he is good The Straight Story Sep 2013 #35
If it had been an internal civil war, maybe so. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #40
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