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Bluenorthwest

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8. From me as well, this is what we are supposed to do.

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:26 PM

Aug 2013

The unitary executive is bad for both the people and for that executive. I think it is sad that there was no stomach for holding Bushco accountable for the Iraq lies, because as we now see, the lies and the lack of accountability have made it difficult for the people to trust the executive branch and the Congress.
Once you declare that the worst deliberate lies causing thousands of deaths are not worthy of any sort of punishment, you have declared that you also feel the right to lie about any and everything yourself.

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a rare note of gratitude to president obama from ... me. [View all] xchrom Aug 2013 OP

I share that too. Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #1

I am glad he is going to congress. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #2

Yes! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #3

we need to call the critters. that's our job. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #4

+1,000 malaise Aug 2013 #5

Totally. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #6

As of late, the President has been making wise choices across several issues. mick063 Aug 2013 #7

From me as well, this is what we are supposed to do. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #8

And me. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #9

That would add a new "dimension" to the discussion... riqster Sep 2013 #80

You just had to go there... truebluegreen Sep 2013 #81

Ditto n/t Flying Squirrel Aug 2013 #10

He has always been wary of intervention. iandhr Aug 2013 #11

I agree, xchrom....nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #12

I agree... whttevrr Aug 2013 #13

unless we get people like McCain prevailing and end up with a bigger war... Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #67

Ugh... shush... whttevrr Sep 2013 #71

McCain will always push for the big war as he imagines that's what makes him shine? I guess Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #72

Couldn't agree more. Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #14

I'm also pleased with how he handled this. pnwmom Aug 2013 #15

Not surprised as much as gladdened. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #57

The President did what I said I could do Mira Aug 2013 #16

and so did many of the worlds powers decide to let Hitler do his thang MindMover Aug 2013 #17

Assad is no Hitler, despite the facial hair MNBrewer Aug 2013 #49

Pretty weak analogy hueymahl Sep 2013 #64

Yea, and the proximity of Syria to Israel and western Europe is not reason for concern ... MindMover Sep 2013 #76

I fail to see any good outcome regarding Syria lunatica Aug 2013 #18

That we stop a lunatic a, I personally think that is a great outcome ... MindMover Aug 2013 #19

How cute lunatica Aug 2013 #20

Saying we need to stop a lunatic is very simplistic. Of course we want to stop a lunatic. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #21

You sound like all those nations that turned a blind eye to Hitler .... MindMover Aug 2013 #24

Now Assad is "Hitler"? Before he was a "lunatic". Kindly show me links to your HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #30

So what do my posts of 6 months ago have anything to do with the murdering of MindMover Aug 2013 #33

Oy vey. If he's Hitler now, then he surely was six months ago, n'est-ce pas? But I don't recall HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #35

6 months ago, he was only using bullets, rockets, bombs and tanks to destroy MindMover Aug 2013 #38

First "lunatic", next "Hitler," now "butcher of Damascus" - who shall rid me of these HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #41

I think Putin is closer to Hitler than Assad, personally. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #50

Your parallel is absurd. And again, we are not the world's police. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #37

Again, we could with missiles and air destroy his military capabilities in 60 days .... MindMover Aug 2013 #39

At what cost? Which safety net will suffer? And why is it us? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #42

At what cost do we do nothing, that is worse than doing something.... MindMover Aug 2013 #43

We have enabled everyone else. They stand back and let us foot the bill. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #46

This ^^^^ ctsnowman Sep 2013 #75

This is not entirely a true statement ... many middle eastern countries have helped MindMover Sep 2013 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #27

So Assad is a 'lunatic,' is he? HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #29

He is a lunatic opthomologist gone wild .... MindMover Aug 2013 #31

I think you're obviously wrong for two reasons. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #89

Wrong on both points .... MindMover Sep 2013 #90

yep spanone Aug 2013 #22

I think it's great he is making Congress shoulder some responsibility. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #23

+ 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #44

Hey! cant you use scientific notation? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #45

I forget how that works. Been out of college way too long. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #47

Me too! rhett o rick Sep 2013 #52

Ugh... there is no brazillion! whttevrr Sep 2013 #55

The "brazillion" refers back Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #62

I guess the tongue sticking out smiley does not telegraph intent enough... whttevrr Sep 2013 #66

You're right, Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #73

He knows he won't get a fight out of Congress. Republicans and democrats are now united in being liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #25

If you call stamping out cockroaches a war ..... MindMover Aug 2013 #26

So, you're so gung ho........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #28

101st Chairborne :rofl: - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #36

Wow, that's pretty funny.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #58

OMG!!! DUzy!!! And I'm SO stealing this!!! 101st Chairborne! calimary Sep 2013 #59

I suppose you are looking at yourself in the mirror....and you are funny ... MindMover Sep 2013 #86

Was there ever an 'anti-war' party? Dems supported LBJ on Vietnam pretty much HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #32

DU rec Change has come Aug 2013 #34

I can agree with this completely. n/t MuseRider Aug 2013 #40

I'm really happy he's doing this. It slows down the race to bomb and possibly stop it neverforget Aug 2013 #48

It doesn't change anything but the timing. Regardless of how the vote comes down. morningfog Aug 2013 #51

A very good move eridani Sep 2013 #53

I agree with your sentiment... Jasana Sep 2013 #54

I'll sign on. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #56

and from me.. now it's up to the big mouth Republicans to put up or shut up.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #60

It makes me laugh with sadness that the death of these 1400+ people by gas MNBrewer Sep 2013 #70

With one humongous exception .... drop a sarin gas rocket into a neighborhood and you kill thousands MindMover Sep 2013 #78

That's pretty weak MNBrewer Sep 2013 #79

I really do not understand what you mean to say when you say that's pretty weak ... MindMover Sep 2013 #83

Rockets only kill fighters that are shooting bullets at you?? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #84

Yes, there are civilian casualties when rockets are aimed at fighters ... MindMover Sep 2013 #85

I see how that will be of great comfort to the families of the civilians who were killed MNBrewer Sep 2013 #87

If your argument is that the world community should have acted a long time ago ... MindMover Sep 2013 #88

It's the use of chemical weapons or nukes. Neither can be tolerated.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #82

I'm more cynical. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #61

Surprised and glad to see Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #63

Agreed, and it shows that Obama is not Bush G_j Sep 2013 #65

+1 nt Zorra Sep 2013 #68

+1 well said nt Zorra Sep 2013 #69

As someone whose Democratic representative was calling for him to do this, I agree and support suffragette Sep 2013 #74