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JNelson6563

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51. This part
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
Feb 2012
If progressive Democrats were on the candidates list for House and Senate

and they fully explain their intentions - open book on everything on their beliefs, then they will win.


Really? Well, let's use my own Congressional district for an example. My district encompasses over 30 counties.


Think about that. Look at a map, a Congressional district one if you are so inclined. check out MI's first district. We have two Dems running for the primary. One is a native American, one is not. The NA is more progressive but he won't win the primary. He doesn't have the money or the backing to get his message out in over 30 counties plus he is NA. There is a huge swath of MI (we call it the Upper Peninsula) where racism toward NAs is pretty rampant (some hunting/fishing dispute from the days of fur trappers I think). Also the UP is pretty socially conservative.

So we are faced with getting the message out to over 30 counties. I like how you flippantly said that needed to be done. Considering a candidate is only one person they can't do it in person. What is needed then? Oh, maybe TV, radio and newspaper ads? Maybe some mailings? Get volunteers to hit the doors? Who's going to pay for all this? I guess we're going to need to do some fundraising.

Face it, if you want to get your message out you have to raise money to do it. A flippant "Just explain your view of the issues...", well when you're talking about over a million people how do you do that?

Oh and do you really think 2010 was such a watershed year because the candidates on the Dem side weren't liberal enough? lolz I'm sure you're right and it had nothing to do with the two years of 24/7 tea party coverage and both the self-appointed loudmouths of the left and the wingers were all crying and screaming for two years about how everything sucked so bad & was mostly Obama's fault....

Do yourself a favor. Go find a local candidate to help. Admit you're new to real world politics and ask them to put you to work. Go learn first hand what goes into a campaign. It's a lot of hard work and as a Dem, in many cases, the odds are stacked against you. Get to it and then come back and tell us how simple it is.

Julie--who has run many campaigns
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lolz Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #29
which part were you laughing at? kenfrequed Feb 2012 #47
This part JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #51
Save yoru lolz and look at who lost. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #60
You talk like a keyboard commando JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #61
So far... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #69
Ok, let me try again. JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #70
Before I respond to this I would like you to look back a few threads. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #72
Ah yes, you are right. JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #74
And I think messaging is important kenfrequed Feb 2012 #76
"Messaging" has been the least of our worries JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #78
Run again kenfrequed Feb 2012 #79
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This is a well written analysis ... Trajan Feb 2012 #43
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