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Give 'em hell, Sabrina pscot Aug 2013 #1
That would be a revolutionary act! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
if it's "truth" then why is it in Examiner.com, fake news par excellence? uhnope Aug 2013 #31
It's not truth. It's not even on the same planet as truth... SidDithers Aug 2013 #36
What is an 'ODSers'?? Enquiring minds would like to know what insult is being sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #72
I believe it means "Obama Derangement Syndrome" BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #73
Thanks, it's hard to keep up the epithets being invented for Democrats on this sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #74
No, ODS refers to someone who will irrationally believes anything that puts Obama in a bad light. uhnope Aug 2013 #95
And where have you found these people on DU? Eg, the comment in this sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #106
The OP is ODS and see comment #34 uhnope Aug 2013 #112
Explain that please. Where is the word 'Obama' included in the OP? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #158
Your back and forth with Summer H. shows your argument is impenetrable to facts uhnope Aug 2013 #162
Summer H. has no idea what she is talking about regarding this case. My 'motivation' sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #164
It's a recycled Charles Krauthammer insult. QC Aug 2013 #98
Really? Then why is it being used here on a Democratic forum against Democrats who sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #107
The DOJ defense was filed in Federal Court Deny and Shred Aug 2013 #91
But the filing doesn't mean what the OP says it means... SidDithers Aug 2013 #92
You're changing it Deny and Shred Aug 2013 #94
Filing for immunity Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #130
Thanks for catching my bad phraseology Deny and Shred Aug 2013 #140
They always take these legal situations and twist them into something they are not treestar Aug 2013 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #84
And when the shit begins to hit the fan, when the NSA is exposed for sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Aug 2013 #81
"The DOJ claims that in planning and waging the Iraq War, ex-President Bush and Zorra Aug 2013 #3
If only we had known what the 'legitimate scope of employment' for the job sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #4
Big K&R defacto7 Aug 2013 #5
Sick is a good word for it. They are becoming less and less concerned sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #6
Tied up all the knots.... defacto7 Aug 2013 #7
I know we can't give up. But with new revelation, 'impeachment is off the table' sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #14
Funny, you sound a lot like a right wing infiltrator with the TP "Dems as bad as GOP" uhnope Aug 2013 #163
You just hurled a personal attack at me. I don't know you. Explain that insult please or sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #165
Joe Lieberman flavor democrats Supersedeas Aug 2013 #137
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #8
I didn't know apples could grow barnacles Scootaloo Aug 2013 #27
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #9
Starting wars based on lies that kill hundreds of thousands is just part of their job description. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #10
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #38
They want the war criminals to be immune, laws only apply Rex Aug 2013 #11
Thank you Sabrina. JEB Aug 2013 #12
The Complaint is worth reading, as is the Motion to Dismiss AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #13
She is very intelligent woman, she lost her home, and her country sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #18
Sharks can vote (or invent) laws just to protect their ass Amonester Aug 2013 #15
True, but legally the Government IS us and we don't seem to able sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #20
Very *few people* across the Globe know enough of how American politics works. Amonester Aug 2013 #25
I don't believe that at all. Americans know very little about the news anywhere sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #26
A very small 'fringe' of dreamers in the overall picture (of 7 billion humans) protests. Amonester Aug 2013 #119
It is the 'dreamers' as you call them, who have consistently changed the world. Conservatives sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #133
Yes, but you don't convince using hyperbole and crazy speech. Amonester Aug 2013 #142
So what you characterize as hyperbole? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #144
For an example, I suggest your OP up-thread. Amonester Aug 2013 #146
How is asking that they have to pay out in a lawsuit for what they did BECAUSE sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #149
Fabrication: "You are saying they don't deserve even that much justice." Amonester Aug 2013 #150
Well, there are more suckers born every minute. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #90
There is some justification for the "collective guilt" argument bhikkhu Aug 2013 #16
Yes, I remember how disheartened I was as I watched the numbers rise in sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #19
Most of that 75% believed the lies. tblue Aug 2013 #21
Gullible? sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #118
Let's not forget Senator Hillary summer-hazz Aug 2013 #17
I will never forget Hillary's vote or any of the other Democrats' votes. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23
Me too Sabrina 1!!! summer-hazz Aug 2013 #30
Your statement about hope - ain't it the truth! truedelphi Aug 2013 #128
This post was hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Aug 2013 #139
I have the same principles I had when Bush was occupying the WH. I haven't changed one sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #143
I don't think this is an admission of any guilt, let alone war crimes Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #24
But the DOJ should have been the prosecutors in a criminal trial. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #45
President Truman had a sign on his desk in the Oval Office that read, "The buck stops here!" Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #28
So, in theory, Bush was just following orders? Wait a minute, wasn't he the Commander-in-Chief? Coyotl Aug 2013 #29
Dept. of the Rational acknowledges that Examiner.com is guilty of BS! uhnope Aug 2013 #32
I think the point that this war was planned before they took office is startlingly legitimate Samantha Aug 2013 #33
Project for the New American Century--Those are the ones to hold accountable! KoKo Aug 2013 #70
Thank you. That deserves its own OP. There is a certain amnesia setting in sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #71
Maybe... KoKo Aug 2013 #79
PNAC was just the vehicle they used to committ the crime. bvar22 Aug 2013 #80
Your entire mischaracterization Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #34
Great post... SidDithers Aug 2013 #37
Thanks for posting that. It made things clearer for me... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #40
If that were the purpose of using this defense, then all the DOJ had to do sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #49
I hate it that victims have to take civil action to even have their voices heard... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #52
I haven't seen that, thanks for the link I will definitely watch it later when I sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #54
Jesus wept. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #96
What it is really about is that this DOJ would not be in a position to sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51
This is a civil suit Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #89
Lol, 'this is a Civil Suit and has nothing to do with war crimes'! Really? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #109
Now I KNOW you don't know the difference Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #114
If the DOJ is granted its request for immunity, the judge will do nothing of the kind. The sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #116
Exactly WHAT is the 'nothing of the kind' Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #124
Thank you... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #58
Yup... SidDithers Aug 2013 #62
Oh look.. the post I wanted to write... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #61
You are ruining perfectly good outrage by inserting meaningful details. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #76
You're wrong again... SidDithers Aug 2013 #35
I don't think she does know the difference ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #39
Your question would be valid IF you had read the OP and were capable of sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #46
Yeah, I didn't think you knew the difference... SidDithers Aug 2013 #47
It might be better for your own sake if you refrained from posting 'what Sid thinks' sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #48
Keep digging... SidDithers Aug 2013 #50
Why are victims of Bush War Crimes forced to try to get justice in Civil Suits? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #53
Because "Bush War Crimes" is all in your head... SidDithers Aug 2013 #57
From Sid: 'Bush War Crimes' is all in your head'!!! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #63
Her civil suit, and I'm really surprised you're actually acknowledging it is a civil suit... SidDithers Aug 2013 #66
I thought you did 'give a shit' by your multiple comments in a thread you sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #67
How many times did you use the word "crime" in your OP?... SidDithers Aug 2013 #68
Not nearly enough times, I was restraining myself since this is a Civil Suit sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #69
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #104
+1000 n/t zappaman Aug 2013 #105
How would you have it done? treestar Aug 2013 #102
How would I have it done? The same way it is done for every defendant in a lawsuit. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #111
No matter how many times you try to spin this Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #152
She already dealt with that in her Complaint, she anticipated this 'spin' that she sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #154
I have read her complaint Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #156
We are all still waiting for something, anything that relates to the actual sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #59
Your OP is something produced by your fevered imagination... SidDithers Aug 2013 #60
Well it's taking the time to 'think' that is the issue. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #64
And we are all still waiting Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #97
Haven't read the DOJ's resonse asking for immunity either. Didn't see the claim that the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #115
Yet another deflection from the topic at hand Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #123
But the DOJ could do as it wanted to. truedelphi Aug 2013 #129
So your 'defense' is that you didn't state Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #93
Your comment makes no sense at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #103
Okay, I'll go slower this time ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #108
This comment is ALL ABOUT ME! Lol! While I'm always flattered to be the focus of attention sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #110
Your lack of knowledge of the law Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #120
Darn you, Summer … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #138
If the Bush cabal is charged, does it not get a defense? treestar Aug 2013 #101
Do you know what this OP is about? The Bush cabal have been sued by a victim of their sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #113
Keep diggin' that hole, sabrina Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #131
wow. zappaman Aug 2013 #135
Here's the thing.. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #145
Thanks, Bobbie Jo Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #159
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #41
Kick Scuba Aug 2013 #42
In other words: The Westfall Act is the US version of the Nuremberg Defense. avebury Aug 2013 #43
Yes, exactly. And it didn't work too well back then. The plaintiff in this case sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #65
Except that it does not apply to criminal cases such as War Crime prosecutions hack89 Aug 2013 #87
Which totally sucks! Civil cases are the only legal remedy when avebury Aug 2013 #100
Where are the Criminal Charges?? And why should it apply to ANY case involving the Bush sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #117
It is settled US law hack89 Aug 2013 #122
She addressed that in her complaint. She explained why the immunity claim doesn't apply sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #132
The Dems in power now will not open themselves up to such law suits hack89 Aug 2013 #134
I understand that, now. At one time not so long ago, I was naive enough to believe that they sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #141
Kick AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #44
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #55
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #56
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #75
It has been noted by DUer's above that this is a civil action... KansDem Aug 2013 #77
Nuremberg defense The Wizard Aug 2013 #78
I'd blame the five Supreme Court judges who... Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #82
K & R ~ nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #83
What a major shift. felix_numinous Aug 2013 #85
''Money trumps peace.'' -- George Walker Bush*, ''president'' of the United States, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Aug 2013 #86
Well said. Rec'd. Corruption Inc Aug 2013 #88
I remember millions marching in protest not only here but around the world. Cleita Aug 2013 #121
Well, that is some crack legal analysis there. tritsofme Aug 2013 #125
And that was some crack legal response. But thank you anyhow. I guess you don't have any sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #127
It's to protect Obama zentrum Aug 2013 #126
Their lies broke trust with America ...and that trust will never come back! L0oniX Aug 2013 #136
The government will always protect the power of government Abq_Sarah Aug 2013 #147
Just following orders. where have I heard that before? n/t truth2power Aug 2013 #148
Well, you DIDN'T hear it from the DOJ ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #153
Yes, we most certainly did hear it from the DOJ. Still haven't read their response? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #160
Please post the response here, sabrina Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #161
Lying us into a war was "within the scope of their employment" dflprincess Aug 2013 #151
Yes, that was a very interesting way of putting it. So who is this US Government that sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #157
Keep war crimes A live polynomial Aug 2013 #155
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