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Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:56 PM

So the DOJ acknowledges that the Bush War Criminals are guilty of crimes! [View all]

And apparently they do not feel confident that they can defend them.

So rather than present a defense, they move to grant them immunity and, using the Westfall Act, move to shift the responsibility for the indefensible to the US Government:

DOJ pursues immunity for Bush and six others for Iraq war crimes

The “Westfall Act certification,” submitted pursuant to the Westfall Act of 1988, permits the Attorney General, at his or her discretion, to substitute the United States as the defendant and essentially grant absolute immunity to government employees for actions taken within the scope of their employment.


According to the DOJ, he was just following orders, he was working for the US Government!

That's quite an admission.

But it does explain a lot!

It explains a whole lot.

The DOJ claims that in planning and waging the Iraq War, ex-President Bush and key members of his Administration were acting within the legitimate scope of their employment and are thus immune from suit,” chief counsel Inder Comar of Comar Law said.


So for the first time that I remember, the US Government has, publicly, not only admitted that crimes were committed by the Bush Administration, but worse, that they were WORKING FOR THE US GOVERNMENT.

That doesn't sound like 'no, they did not commit crimes. It sounds like 'look, they did commit crimes, but they were working for US'! They were just following orders! That didn't work at Nuremberg, but whatever

And doesn't that shift the blame for the crimes to all of us? It certainly isn't an argument that no crimes were committed.

"A Government of, for, and by the people"

I object strenuously to being implicated in that horrific crime. I opposed it from the beginning.

The US Government IS the American people. So, without our consent, they are forcing the responsibility for Bush/Cheney's massive crimes and lies on to the American people.

I reject that completely. Bush supporters, yes, they were complicit, but Democrats never signed on to that war and never believed the lies.

Perhaps now that we have an admission of guilt, Sundus Shaker Saleh, an Iraqi single mother and refugee now living in Jordan, who filed the suit can refile it.

This time filing it as:

Saleh V The US Government!



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