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He's wrong. It started a long time ago. Scuba Aug 2013 #1
Agreed. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #22
Yup. nt City Lights Aug 2013 #23
As a candidate in 2008, Barack Obama..... Segami Aug 2013 #2
Shape shifter. dgibby Aug 2013 #3
"Shape shifter" - exactly! polichick Aug 2013 #20
Obama praises instances of whistle-blowing as Segami Aug 2013 #5
seems you don't know the difference between a whistle blower and a common thief nt Cryptoad Aug 2013 #37
Is Ellsberg a Whistle Blower? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #42
Is the Sky Blue? Cryptoad Aug 2013 #46
Good, now we are getting somewhere. Can you explain why what Ellsberg did is different sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #47
Yes, the sky is blue consisting of many shades of such. Segami Aug 2013 #48
I didn't expect an answer. Not unless Ellsberg gets firmly and permanently thrown under sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #49
That "common thief" got 35 years in prison. More time than those that actually sold information to rhett o rick Aug 2013 #54
Beginning? Javaman Aug 2013 #4
Then Mr Ellsberg has been inattentive. n/t malthaussen Aug 2013 #6
He's been busy with that pole dancer friend of Snowden. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #30
Welcome to Weimar America. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #7
It could be done fairly quickly with all the preparations they've made. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #12
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #17
Yep, all it will take is another disaster, real or fabricated, to bring the whole police Nay Aug 2013 #29
I will say this.... Adrahil Aug 2013 #8
"put the people trying to deal with them at risk"... no, not really. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #9
Who was put "at risk", and how do you know that? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #13
Of course not Adrahil Aug 2013 #25
Yes, lets avoid extreme positions. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #31
I would agree that we tend to over-classify. Adrahil Aug 2013 #39
We were aghast that Cheney outed a CIA agent, put hail Manning as patriotic. olegramps Aug 2013 #14
I can agree with you. Adrahil Aug 2013 #27
The material released by Manning was determined to have cause not damage. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #43
Can't have it both ways 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #52
On June 8th, Obama's Whistleblower-Protection Promise Was Removed from Official Website Segami Aug 2013 #10
And to think I trusted him. dgibby Aug 2013 #33
Wow - I wonder if he has trouble sleeping these days. polichick Aug 2013 #38
I can't even look at him anymore. I'm so pissed. Th1onein Aug 2013 #61
Yep libodem Aug 2013 #11
Look at who Obama appointed to "oversee" the NSA! Aerows Aug 2013 #15
As much as I admire and respect Ellsberg (probably about as much as any other living HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #16
I Gotta Go With RobinA Aug 2013 #34
That 'Department of Homeland Security' does have a post-Jan 30, 1933 ring to it, doesn't it? I think HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #40
Saying ' We are in a police state' felix_numinous Aug 2013 #18
+1000 I agree! Segami Aug 2013 #19
agreed G_j Aug 2013 #21
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #24
I don't think that is what it all means, Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2013 #26
"Who ever he thinks he is?" LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #51
I don't know who he thinks he is or who he says he isn't. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2013 #62
Okay, that made absolutely no sense. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #63
USA ...United Stasi of America. Is this US Democracy an illusion yet? n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #28
I know Ellsberg Cryptoad Aug 2013 #32
Any Dickheadishness RobinA Aug 2013 #35
Trust me Cryptoad Aug 2013 #36
Whoosh - that's the sound of Ellsberg being thrown under the bus. Who's next? I vote HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #41
Riiiiight. I smell bullshit. morningfog Aug 2013 #44
If true that you know him, your post reveals more about you than about Ellsberg's character. LiberalAndProud Aug 2013 #50
What a bullshit smear. Octafish Aug 2013 #64
I'm surprised you're still here. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #66
But I will still be able to drive my Prius to Costco right? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #45
Not the first step; but maybe the first undisguised step. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #53
Big step. They are getting bolder. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #55
Yep. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #57
The Authoritarian State of USofA has crossed the Rubicon. They arent turning back. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #56
K&R for Truth Tellers Octafish Aug 2013 #58
A compelling reason a police state is a reality is big brother knows the people are indepat Aug 2013 #59
THIS MUST BE SERIOUS michigandem58 Aug 2013 #60
I guess to people who believe in democracy, yeah, it would be serious. Octafish Aug 2013 #65
I love his MLK avatar, but what do I know...I'd also like to see GW Bush in a Che t-shirt. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #67
You know who wears Che's Rolex? Octafish Aug 2013 #70
I would love to see a discussion with Ellsberg, Chomsky,... gulliver Aug 2013 #68
So conviction in court martial of a serviceperson treestar Aug 2013 #69
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