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Aerows

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13. Apparently, not anymore
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:15 AM
Aug 2013

I seem to recall that there was a law that was passed that allowed the government to spread propaganda to the American public. I guess they are going to use it, now.

National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2013

That's the one I was looking for. Yep, it's apparently legal.

"The 2013 NDAA overturned a 64-year ban on the domestic dissemination of propaganda (described as "public diplomacy information&quot produced for foreign audiences, effectively eliminating the distinction between foreign and domestic audiences. [33][34] Amendments made to the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1987 allow for materials produced by the State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) to be released within US borders."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2013

Oy. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #1
Perfect - oy indeed! polichick Aug 2013 #114
They should just hire an ad agency leftstreet Aug 2013 #2
How many times have we heard "We just need better messaging?" BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #14
messaging is the one thing that actually gets funding nashville_brook Aug 2013 #31
But on the other hand BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #56
oh hell yeah -- the 2008 branding campaign knocked it out of the park nashville_brook Aug 2013 #67
He even beat Nike, Apple and Coors leftstreet Aug 2013 #73
and who knew it would be so easy to dismantle the social network post-election! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #144
"an absence of real people involved in the discussion" Aerows Aug 2013 #62
"Maybe find out who does the high-fructose tv commercials" deurbano Aug 2013 #89
"sugar ... is sugar" *extremely self-satisfied smirk* MisterP Aug 2013 #108
"spying in moderation can't hurt you" leftstreet Aug 2013 #117
"spying...in moderation..can't HURT you" *smarm smarm smarm* MisterP Aug 2013 #118
"i only look at kitteh pictures and justin bieber youtube videos" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #123
... TBF Aug 2013 #110
smack! KoKo Aug 2013 #3
DOA, Infant Mortality. Downwinder Aug 2013 #4
So the plan was to create a conspiracy Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #5
when this is your strategy, it proves you're working with "bad facts." nashville_brook Aug 2013 #6
It's mindboggling Aerows Aug 2013 #9
was Sunstein was tapped in order to implement his "infiltration" strategy? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #12
Apparently, not anymore Aerows Aug 2013 #13
you can't fight distrust in govt with lies and paid propagandists nashville_brook Aug 2013 #18
OMG I had missed this one. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #23
gee -- i wonder what the pro-NSA response will be. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #38
My Theory? The Koolaid Brigade© is feeling slighted and underappreciated right now. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #177
my theory SwampG8r Aug 2013 #196
"two from Canada" ? DURHAM D Aug 2013 #210
should at least get first dibs nashville_brook Aug 2013 #213
Not all conspiracy theories are false. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #21
Sunstein defines CT as "reference to the machinations of powerful people" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #24
I wouldnt trust Sunstein on about ANYTHING. 7962 Aug 2013 #76
+1 nashville_brook Aug 2013 #120
Oh, boy, do I know that! Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #25
It can no longer be deemed "conspiracy theory" Ocelot Aug 2013 #47
good point - perfect example. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #93
It's like a Mobius strip ... made of conspiracy DirkGently Aug 2013 #57
it's very meta isn't it Enrique Aug 2013 #70
Yes, that is the irony of his proposals. And if someone in one of the threads notices something sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #105
There have been stories like this going back to the 60's. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #106
Yes, and now we have someone who is going to watch out for our privacy, actually sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #116
They're here. tblue Aug 2013 #192
In other words Aerows Aug 2013 #7
Please remember, Obama surrounds himself with Republicans. RC Aug 2013 #43
I'm pretty sure Sunstein isn't a Republican. I just have a hard time believing that anyone SlimJimmy Aug 2013 #134
Kick and Rec. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #8
Oy. It just gets worse. n.t myrna minx Aug 2013 #10
Some people in Washington need to get out of the bubble Aerows Aug 2013 #11
I'm so crestfallen from all of these revelations. myrna minx Aug 2013 #17
This is jaw-droppingly bad stuff. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #15
And thanks to the NDAA Aerows Aug 2013 #16
It's not a possibility. It's a reality that "Obama is just as good at his job as he seems,"... truth2power Aug 2013 #197
Why not get Karl Rove and Ollie North, then? Why screw around? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #19
Couldn't get much more blatant, could it? "Hey, we hiring professional liars DirkGently Aug 2013 #27
"it's like a clown car with unlimited power and money." blackspade Aug 2013 #173
I am beginning to suspect that Obama knows, at most, 30 people Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #20
When Republicans do it, it's called cronyism. n/t QC Aug 2013 #132
That they'd hire PROfessionals to infiltrate forums makes a lot of SENSE. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #22
cleaning coffee off screen... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #28
Can you please clean mine too? L0oniX Aug 2013 #34
Naughty Naughty! n2doc Aug 2013 #40
Yer bad... L0oniX Aug 2013 #45
i see what you did there frylock Aug 2013 #48
Snork!!! GliderGuider Aug 2013 #59
*BWAH!* Hydra Aug 2013 #84
Ha! whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #87
Very juvenile -- and making a very baseless accusation karynnj Aug 2013 #92
"That poster has been here since at least 2005 and has been very consistent in her positions." friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #103
My iPad is pretty insightful ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #94
LMAO! n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #109
Clever, but I'll stnad up for her here Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #174
Another shallow, ignorant tool who is going to explain things to us. bemildred Aug 2013 #26
and the conceit that they can make people believe that POWER doesn't affect change nashville_brook Aug 2013 #30
is there such a problem with doing the right thing? G_j Aug 2013 #29
Yes, it appears so Aerows Aug 2013 #32
Trust them? .....................................................LMFAO ....pathetic. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #33
well you know...journalists are terrorists, so if you knew what's good fer ya... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #35
Damn journalism jihadists! L0oniX Aug 2013 #42
clutching with their AP Style books like the Koran! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #44
Preaching about the 1st Amendment Aerows Aug 2013 #58
with protected status or something! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #61
Read that link that I have at the bottom of the thread as a response Aerows Aug 2013 #71
Hey - That's not a reform committee, It's a propaganda panel like the Creel Committee ! limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #36
The Guardian was reporting a similar story back in 2011 Ocelot Aug 2013 #37
"on-shoring" of previously exported programs: Naomi Klein on China's All-Seeing Eye nashville_brook Aug 2013 #41
Thanks for the link, this looks like good reading! arcane1 Aug 2013 #65
it's really eye-opening...the problem with spying is as bad or worse when it's nashville_brook Aug 2013 #146
LOL! City Lights Aug 2013 #39
Hmm...I actually think this has already started... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #46
probable cause to question overt pro-NSA messaging... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #49
I bet Sunstein's proposal was not unique in the sense others were joeybee12 Aug 2013 #51
Absolutely-- if not by government agencies themselves, then outiside PR Marr Aug 2013 #52
it's the definition of a "think tank" -- nashville_brook Aug 2013 #53
I think so too. I just don't know what to say about this latest development...nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #96
Yeah, it's disconcerting that a person like this would be given joeybee12 Aug 2013 #112
The administration's position and agenda here is pretty clear. Marr Aug 2013 #50
A bit of "Stick it in Greenwald's Eye" KoKo Aug 2013 #63
it goes the other way too...confirming that this was significant. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #66
Good Point...but, you will never see an admission of that.... KoKo Aug 2013 #80
indeedydoodoo. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #95
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #54
no better way to prove conspiracy theorists wrong Enrique Aug 2013 #55
I eagerly await the palace guard's rhetorical gymnastics on this, should be amusing. KG Aug 2013 #60
They're conspicuous by their absence. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #90
Sunstein must be having a cognitive infiltration kickoff meeting. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #161
I smell burning gears LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #142
Warning! Warning! Does not compute! Oilwellian Aug 2013 #155
I keep waiting for the alarm clock to go off dgibby Aug 2013 #64
The stench is overwhelming. ctsnowman Aug 2013 #68
Since we are bringing things to light Aerows Aug 2013 #69
Yea, better propaganda will reform NSA's illegal spying. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #72
Maybe we should all claim we have pot.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #179
Hmmm...I like that! HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #181
I'm already picturing the NSA is going down... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #183
I certainly hope so. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #194
My experience is that once an agency is seen as "bad" it's gone.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #198
I think usually they get absorbed into other agencies. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #200
Obama should just come clean, tell us the truth and stop spying on us Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #74
notice the absence... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #126
No, not at all Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #133
"Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama’s closest confidants" GliderGuider Aug 2013 #75
It explains a lot, doesn't it? nt bemildred Aug 2013 #77
Sadly, yes it does. nt GliderGuider Aug 2013 #82
Come again?? Hydra Aug 2013 #88
That link should be required reading. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #170
Well isn't that special? whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #78
The left wing Robert Bork is someone we can all trust to protect our privacy! Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #79
NSA has been part of a decades lonjg spy on us RedCloud Aug 2013 #81
there's been outrage about domestic spying since Cointelpro become known nashville_brook Aug 2013 #85
K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #83
What the fuck?! bunnies Aug 2013 #86
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #91
Why does President Obama often pick the wrong people? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #97
He unwittingly trusts the wrong people, he's threatened by the wrong people, or... polichick Aug 2013 #115
He doesn't just Nite Owl Aug 2013 #125
Because from a slightly different point of view the're not "wrong" at all. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #199
Oh, I'm double-plus unhappy Enthusiast Aug 2013 #203
I guess I am one they would target b/c I KNOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS TOTALLY BOUGHT AND Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #98
to add on to what you're saying...a particular Rep/Sen doesn't even have to be "bought" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #100
I agree. As to Alan Grayson, I love him. Everyone loves to bash us Plaintiff lawyers as ambulance Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #135
i know a little bit about how difficult it is to do that kind of law nashville_brook Aug 2013 #140
I've been referring to "them" as "catapulters" rusty fender Aug 2013 #99
i can barely think of the word 'propaganda' without nashville_brook Aug 2013 #101
Sunstein's Wikipedia entry is fascinating. DirkGently Aug 2013 #102
Recommend.. "libertarian paternalism" KoKo Aug 2013 #104
Should be an OP whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #121
reminds me of sophomores reading The Republic... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #122
I don't think he can be dismissed as a shitty intellectual cali Aug 2013 #137
i don't think anyone is dashing his smarts -- it's on the subject of NSA that he's questionable nashville_brook Aug 2013 #145
He's a fucking elitist. They play squash. Haha? DirkGently Aug 2013 #148
Gosh. The hits just keep coming. Octafish Aug 2013 #107
oh my! thanks for posting this! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #111
+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #119
Thanks for posting. myrna minx Aug 2013 #124
That's a great juxtapositioning. DirkGently Aug 2013 #129
cognitive infiltrator Rex Aug 2013 #139
or psyops, even. these are dark waters for someone so close to the president. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #141
Thank you for posting this. Am so looking forward to barrage of Linkosaurus-Blue links idwiyo Aug 2013 #151
Deafening silence, isn't it? hatrack Aug 2013 #188
I thought I was going deaf. Not even a cricket chirping... idwiyo Aug 2013 #195
Recommend Read.. KoKo Aug 2013 #189
Thanks for the links Dack Aug 2013 #113
welcome to DU -- no one mentions the "team of rivals" anymore nashville_brook Aug 2013 #136
Interesting that he never lifted a finger to market the benefits of Obamacare BlueStreak Aug 2013 #127
amen...and don't get me started on ACORN. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #143
Sounds like a tacit admission that the NSA is inherently untrustworthy. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #128
NDAA: It is legal for the government to lie to your face. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #130
Everyday some new Nite Owl Aug 2013 #131
"cognitive infiltrator" Rex Aug 2013 #138
Havent you heard? The Spy Committee Report has been leaked. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #147
There's much here with links that folks might want to go back to...K&R KoKo Aug 2013 #149
add this link: CASS SUNSTEIN: Meet the new Obama elite, or "all the president's middlebrows" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #150
Fascinating...for background...before Cass was Cass as we know him today? KoKo Aug 2013 #153
oh ouch DURHAM D Aug 2013 #163
"ponderous middlebrows concealing their old-fashioned pursuits" DirkGently Aug 2013 #211
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #152
K&R LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #154
unbelievable! neverforget Aug 2013 #156
Also on the review committee is Richard Clarke. I like Richard Clarke. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #157
"And while Barack Obama is POTUS" LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #158
And you know just how much power the general do and don't have at NSA? Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #204
it will be interesting to see how Clarke comes out of this... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #164
Obama's "close confident" is also the husband of Obama's Ambassador to the United Nations. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #205
I lost faith in the President long ago. mick063 Aug 2013 #159
So you joined the Tea Party? Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #206
Holy shit mick063 Aug 2013 #207
+1 nashville_brook Aug 2013 #212
"Cognitive infiltrator": resume-speak for "buillshit artist". n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #160
Kick! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #162
The committee is useless. It's only purpose was to fool the public. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #165
it's actual, stated purpose is to influence our opinion nashville_brook Aug 2013 #166
K&R WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #167
Kind of like how Priebus says Repuke policies are fine; they just need better messaging bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #168
K & R DURHAM D Aug 2013 #169
Thanks for the info. blackspade Aug 2013 #171
Fools? libdude Aug 2013 #172
The crowning insult to this affair is that Sunstein and the other apparatchiks HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #175
His "base" isn't Dems who voted for him....it's the "Fusion" he is about... KoKo Aug 2013 #190
We are so f**ked. n/t countmyvote4real Aug 2013 #176
I guess this proves Obama isnt "out of the loop". HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #178
I respect Clarke. He has always done his job honestly and to the best of his ability. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #180
You can trust your government! limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #182
Transparent blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #184
It just keeps getting creepier. JEB Aug 2013 #185
I think Obama misread that old saw as, the best disinfectant is ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #186
truly a brave new world,. now propaganda trumps policy, pathetic. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #187
Yes, a dangerous course. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #201
I log on to DU w/the Dorothy Parker question: "What fresh hell is this?" Divernan Aug 2013 #191
Kick LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #193
kick cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #202
In case anyone missed it . . . . snot Aug 2013 #208
It gets worse, and we pray for a reprieve from the betrayal, delrem Aug 2013 #209
get ready for the ensuing media blitz Supersedeas Aug 2013 #214
It's odd that, in his paper, Sunstein attributes.... PosterChild Jul 2014 #215
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