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Wilms

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14. Thanks.

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:06 AM

Aug 2013

For a second I thought there was a problem here. But since many war criminals escape justice, it's really OK for the Obama DoJ to defend this group. The fact that it'll cover his ass too is just wonderful. I'm really satisfied with your appreciation of the important points.

Many thanks. Really. I can sleep well. So can millions of Iraqi's and coalition troops and their families, let alone drone victims (who we probably shouldn't give a shit about either).

Thank you. Thank you very much. Really. I should have figured it out for myself but having folk like you here on DU to help me see the error of my non-Third Way is an amazing thing.

Really. Thanks.

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DoJ was in court today defending Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice and Wolfowitz [View all] Wilms Aug 2013 OP

And a BIG Fuck You to you too FreakinDJ Aug 2013 #1

Your response is baffling to me. lark Aug 2013 #130

I think the poster was just responding to the middle finger from the DOJ to the rest of us NuclearDem Aug 2013 #161

Obama's DOJ is saying "Fuck You to ALL Americans" FreakinDJ Aug 2013 #165

Pretty much...what you gonna do anyway...you're a Nation of Cowards Supersedeas Aug 2013 #172

Who wants to lay bets on which talking points we'll hear in favor of this? last1standing Aug 2013 #2

They're carrying in the stone tablets now..... Segami Aug 2013 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #143

I am sorry but I am a bit confused by your post, could you edd context to it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #144

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Well I wish they would prosecute these people but I understand the DOJ has to do it's job. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #147

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Pelosi made a huge mistake in not impeaching him. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #149

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link to slightly more balanced article uhnope Aug 2013 #49

ODS suffers. He lost me when he said that GHW Bush made America a 'gentler, kinder country' roguevalley Aug 2013 #53

So you agree with Obama & Co defending BushCo? LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #105

Are you shocked to find supporters of Bush war crimes among us? reusrename Aug 2013 #123

Oh, I don't think they ACTUALLY LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #126

This time it's the PNAC crowd that gets their unflinching support. reusrename Aug 2013 #127

I'm guessing here but Phlem Aug 2013 #145

The hits just keep on coming. Autumn Aug 2013 #3

There's that change again. Rec'd n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #4

It's all about inspiring hope. reusrename Aug 2013 #124

Yes, change! Apparently neocons come in two exciting colors: Dark Republican Red, and Zorra Aug 2013 #158

I could not believe my eyes... n/t cactusfractal Aug 2013 #5

Welcome to DU, cactusfractal! calimary Aug 2013 #25

I don't think the Islamic terrorists will like this very much. juajen Aug 2013 #44

Welcome to DU nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #29

I'd be upset if only I was surprised. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #6

+1 n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #12

Doesn't Bradley Manning's sentencing take place tomorrow? Autumn Aug 2013 #36

Yes, irony of ironies. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #41

sadly G_j Aug 2013 #43

It takes a lot for me to really truly cry in pain Mira Aug 2013 #63

I've become cynical enough to get it, G_j Aug 2013 #66

Your last sentence is spot on. CrispyQ Aug 2013 #86

+1,000 malaise Aug 2013 #81

I was surprised! (that it took this long). nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #17

Nothing shocks me any more. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #155

That's fucked up gopiscrap Aug 2013 #7

Come on people...you guys need to be realistic Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #8

So Obama is protecting war criminals JoeyT Aug 2013 #9

I think we can all agree that the Bush admin committed war crimes Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #18

So what's the point in having laws against war crimes? Simply something we can apply to others? leveymg Aug 2013 #30

I agree. If there were ever grounds for a special exception, it is for the Bush Administration. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #82

So Obama is covering W's crimes to protect his own? HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #62

I'm not defending it Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #108

Please keep defending this position LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #110

I'm not defending anything Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #111

So When Do We Get Our Pardon - Get Of Jail Card - For Past Transgressions? cantbeserious Aug 2013 #134

Bush admin officials were never pardoned Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #135

That's The Point - The Obama DOJ Is Protecting Them From Prosecution cantbeserious Aug 2013 #136

Yes, they are Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #137

Well Then What Does That Say About Our Society - A Dead Or Dying Myth - I'd Say cantbeserious Aug 2013 #138

Nixon was pardoned by Ford. former9thward Aug 2013 #169

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is change we can believe in. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #162

Thanks. Wilms Aug 2013 #14

I don't think it's OK Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #20

Agreed. Wilms Aug 2013 #23

I heard people tell me that gay marriage will never happen in my lifetime Downtown Hound Aug 2013 #122

"the current DOJ" Why Syzygy Aug 2013 #71

Wait wait wait wait, BACK THE FUCK UP... Scootaloo Aug 2013 #89

I'm not defending anything Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #109

Your phrasing leaves much to be desired Scootaloo Aug 2013 #114

I don't really care how "other people" interpret my post Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #116

Apparently. n/t Wilms Aug 2013 #119

Based on that, can we agree that Obama is, at best, ordinary? Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #142

Now, why aren't people screaming about this? ProSense Aug 2013 #10

Because they wanted to give you a moment... Wilms Aug 2013 #16

So you're cool with this being kept on the down low? ProSense Aug 2013 #28

A hit against the President? Wilms Aug 2013 #31

Well, that certainly shows your compassion. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #33

The picture illustrates what you support. You should embrace your position rather than run from it. xocet Aug 2013 #60

nice. Phlem Aug 2013 #141

Perhaps because DU is the massive cloud of dust that is the incubator of stars. mick063 Aug 2013 #24

Pretending there is no outrage about this doesn't remove the onus for defending war criminals MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #61

It just happened today. Why Syzygy Aug 2013 #72

Because it is not a surprise. It wont be a surprise when Obama pardons them either. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #128

This should be all over TV news, and would be if the networks... polichick Aug 2013 #129

someone sues them in 2013 case and bushcheneny et all made themselves immune long ago. Sunlei Aug 2013 #11

DoJ represents the government. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #13

The suit alledges the planning preceded the administration. Wilms Aug 2013 #19

Yawn. Proceed with your temper tantrum. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #22

Perhaps you'll read the .pdf. Wilms Aug 2013 #26

So you care so little about this important issue that it makes you yawn? totodeinhere Aug 2013 #102

The statement says that Bush was President carrying out US policy in that role geek tragedy Aug 2013 #104

But that policy was wrong, immoral and illegal. That seems pretty controversial to me. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #107

THe idiots detailed their plan on the PNAC website. joeunderdog Aug 2013 #160

That is surprising. Wilms Aug 2013 #163

Tell that to Joachim von Ribbentrop Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #79

And the government can defend them without being said to approve of what they did treestar Aug 2013 #92

Now it's "emo types", huh? Ocelot Aug 2013 #100

They let their emotions rule treestar Aug 2013 #166

Pot, meet kettle (N/T) Ocelot Aug 2013 #167

For years I have wondered, "Where is the outrage?" young_at_heart Aug 2013 #15

one does not prosecute others for what one is doing oneself, got it? nt msongs Aug 2013 #21

^^^^this^^^^ nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #27

Obama lied and illegally invaded a country? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #34

No but he's apparently defending it neverforget Aug 2013 #37

Yes in their world he did, they hate him that much uponit7771 Aug 2013 #67

He did not. Mira Aug 2013 #69

me too questionseverything Aug 2013 #103

Pakistan? Libya? Yemen? Why Syzygy Aug 2013 #73

I'm glad you brought those up. bvar22 Aug 2013 #121

Obama defends war criminals. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #91

Government gone wild. New 2013 video: Miami Beach Spring Break. L0oniX Aug 2013 #97

Let's see who Obama has concern over. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #98

...and DU frets over the use of repuke talking points when this admin is expanding the Bush Stasi. L0oniX Aug 2013 #99

+1... SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #157

Well, the DOJ appears to be correct when it says this about the Bush administration: sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #32

The suit alledges that this started before they stole the WH. Wilms Aug 2013 #35

I don't know anything about this suit, I just found out about it, so I cannot comment sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #46

"defend and protect the Constitution . . . " CrispyQ Aug 2013 #87

Perhaps I need to review ancient US law, something that is increasingly required. mick063 Aug 2013 #39

Technically, we haven't declared war since 1942. progressoid Aug 2013 #56

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert L. Jackson Chief U.S. Prosecutor at the Nuremberg Tribunals G_j Aug 2013 #38

I wonder when the US decided to abandon its own rules on leaders 'leading their sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #47

out the window.. G_j Aug 2013 #59

So sad. How fast it can happen, and with hardly a whimper, the downfall of a nation. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #78

1953 Dulles Bros. bring BFEE public. Octafish Aug 2013 #156

It's been a very dark period in our history. I wonder how it will be viewed a century from now sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #159

I got nothing to say that's fit to type. JEB Aug 2013 #42

+1 countmyvote4real Aug 2013 #54

Not JUST getting off Scot free... bvar22 Aug 2013 #120

My gosh Iliyah Aug 2013 #45

Has DU always equalled ODS? uhnope Aug 2013 #48

What is ODS? nt Why Syzygy Aug 2013 #75

ods is SwampG8r Aug 2013 #88

it's an accusation leveled by ass kissers and sycophants whenever dear leader is critiqued.. frylock Aug 2013 #93

Obama Derangement Syndrome uhnope Aug 2013 #113

Obama's protecting fucking war criminals NuclearDem Aug 2013 #164

goddammit AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #50

Read "The Pentagon Papers" or Dan Ellsbergs memoirs. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #51

Look forward, not back! blackspade Aug 2013 #52

He didn't dare set that precedent. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #57

Here is an interesting quote from Edmund Burke.... xocet Aug 2013 #55

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #58

CHANGE? Yeah right! nt alp227 Aug 2013 #64

Wesley Clark 2007 'this was a coup' Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #65

K&R'd & bookmarked. snot Aug 2013 #68

Try what I do. Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #70

So being a war criminal is legitimate purpose of office now??? WTF? on point Aug 2013 #74

I Didn't Read Everything About This But...... global1 Aug 2013 #76

Mass murder under the shield of a government polynomial Aug 2013 #77

Sovereign immunity tularetom Aug 2013 #80

Change... Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #83

Nice. They can't do a DAMN thing about the blatant, racist voter suppression Triana Aug 2013 #84

AND AGAIN THE FAR LEFT WINS NOTHING Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #85

I'm not sure if this can be repaired. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author QuestForSense Aug 2013 #94

"with liberty and justice for all" - Bush, Cheney, Snowden, Manning... polichick Aug 2013 #95

Yea ok fuck the law ...it means nothing then and now. Thanks for confirming that DOJ. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #96

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #101

Some are too big to jail. Manning, Snowden are a totally different story! bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #106

So now, by making them immune from 'war crimes prosecution', They_Live Aug 2013 #112

Until the laws apply equally to all Americans Rex Aug 2013 #115

^^this^^ nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #125

So we are "looking backward" inasmuch as we're DirkGently Aug 2013 #117

disgusting n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #118

This is why Iraq was invaded. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #131

That's what will be argued FWIW. Wilms Aug 2013 #139

Almost word for word didn't it? Tiredofthesame Aug 2013 #154

Sort of leaped right off the page at you, didn't it? WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #168

Aww...how cute. They're all sticking up for one another. That's REAL friendship! nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #132

Proof Positive That Obama Has Turned On The American People And Democratic Principles cantbeserious Aug 2013 #133

The DOJ has no choice but to do this. obxhead Aug 2013 #140

Makes me want to throw up, Tiredofthesame Aug 2013 #151

my president is officially a warmonger... Agony Aug 2013 #152

remember when we were told in 2008 that the democrats had won the election? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #153

I am sure that this is sensible® TransitJohn Aug 2013 #170

It's because Obama doesn't want them coming after him for his war crimes. alarimer Aug 2013 #171