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MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
58. Because they are raging hypocrites who will defend anything a govt. agency that answers to Obama
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:15 PM
Aug 2013

does, when previously, under Bush, they would have condemned the exact same thing. Just like how Freeperville used to defend everything Bush did that was condemned here.

Good Question - Have Wondered The Same cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1
Democrats and Progressives are not the same thing necessarily LearningCurve Aug 2013 #2
True that. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #6
Well said! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #28
Who exactly is willing to pay ordinary Democrats creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #75
Yes, the conservative Democrats were adamant supporters of slavery at one time, Zorra Aug 2013 #17
"Democrats". Not Democrats. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #3
What you said. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #95
It's been kind of quiet on this board about Defending Miranda.... KoKo Aug 2013 #4
Indeed, additional insight from Barry Eisler. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #86
How true the last line from your exerpt.... Little Star Aug 2013 #125
Gonna Be A Quiet Thread... But We Are Here... With YOU... And David... And Glenn... WillyT Aug 2013 #5
....and all the others who have been shut up, shut down, Willy grasswire Aug 2013 #8
I Hear Ya... But As The Oldest, With Three Younger Sisters... WillyT Aug 2013 #11
love that as a quote..."doing the right thing Swagman Aug 2013 #72
Apparently pretty easily. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #7
I'm not defending it nor do I care ChangeUp106 Aug 2013 #9
Sucks to see daily abuses of "those people" (edited to match edited) Cerridwen Aug 2013 #10
We did burnodo Aug 2013 #13
Perhaps you have ADHD? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #43
''Just make this NSA story STOP PLEASE!'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #101
When you help people who are breaking the law please expect to become a suspect and then uponit7771 Aug 2013 #12
who broke a law? burnodo Aug 2013 #14
The person who admitted to hiring onto a company for the sole purpose of stealing from it and the uponit7771 Aug 2013 #15
Was Snowden in London the other day? burnodo Aug 2013 #16
Nope, just the people aiding a law breaker.... further uponit7771 Aug 2013 #19
and "they" were terrorists? burnodo Aug 2013 #21
Depends on what they were trying to do with the stolen gov info or what the person who stole them uponit7771 Aug 2013 #22
so "their" status as possible terrorists depends on what the police find? burnodo Aug 2013 #24
Nope, on the word "possible" alone...see, you don't screw with the gov this way and there's no ... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #25
so they should stop you and hold you in the airport for 9 hours burnodo Aug 2013 #32
If I stole gov info and could be possibly helping terrorist or who the go considers enemies then not uponit7771 Aug 2013 #33
but you could be a possible terrorist burnodo Aug 2013 #39
Yes, steal gov info give to AQ and help them attack the US to bring down and admin uponit7771 Aug 2013 #45
"bring down and(sic) admin" burnodo Aug 2013 #48
Legitimate link and quote to US citizens being "spied" on!? Videoing a person walking into a store uponit7771 Aug 2013 #53
It's going to be pretty hard to believe that the NSA R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #74
You know perfectly well that Greenwald and Miranda aren't giving info to Al Qaida. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #61
lol....had me, GG is an asshole...I've seen him proffer a position and if challenged even a little b uponit7771 Aug 2013 #63
It doesn't matter what Greenwald is like as a person. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #65
They probably are on a terrorist list creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #73
If Miranda was illegally carrying classified information, why wasn't he arrested? burnodo Aug 2013 #81
Because he just received data from Laura Poitras perhaps? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #89
That wasn't what I was talking about burnodo Aug 2013 #90
because they found what they were looking for perhaps... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #92
The information is encrypted creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #94
his other partner is an award-winning fillmmaker noiretextatique Aug 2013 #133
and who admitted to hiring onto a company for the sole purpose of stealing from it?? burnodo Aug 2013 #20
Link inside uponit7771 Aug 2013 #23
now you have heard of that, the link is provided to you below Whisp Aug 2013 #26
Well, good for him! burnodo Aug 2013 #30
lol! okay. Let's encourage more of that kind of theft. Whisp Aug 2013 #34
the Pauls burnodo Aug 2013 #40
no...no .. fuck the over racist bastard pauls, ....fuck em good too... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #46
I think you might need some sleep burnodo Aug 2013 #49
When the Government does *wrong they should be exposed. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #82
I applaud Snowden for exposing the Enemy Within and Swagman Aug 2013 #85
Link and quote ANY of the activities PROVEN to be illegal and I'm not talking about internal uponit7771 Aug 2013 #35
"I'm not talking about internal audits that no one believes anyway" burnodo Aug 2013 #41
No, I admit I'd like the link and quote proof of law breaking I asked for uponit7771 Aug 2013 #42
Your post showed that the audit was a joke burnodo Aug 2013 #51
False, and still no link and quote. My post said no one would believe them as they haven't uponit7771 Aug 2013 #54
They haven't done ANY oversight burnodo Aug 2013 #84
Really? one_voice Aug 2013 #57
OK, but you're trying to tell me what Snowden did was a crime burnodo Aug 2013 #88
No, you don't get to compare... one_voice Aug 2013 #96
so your definition of crimes is all that matters burnodo Aug 2013 #97
Stop twisting shit... one_voice Aug 2013 #103
Stealing what? burnodo Aug 2013 #105
Does it matter?... one_voice Aug 2013 #106
Oh? What am I? burnodo Aug 2013 #108
AMEN!!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #130
yes I congratulate him as well. And I believe he has been extraordinarily brave Swagman Aug 2013 #80
did you break the law ? Swagman Aug 2013 #78
So you'd have said the Freedom Riders and those who helped them had it coming? Ken Burch Aug 2013 #29
For helping people register to vote? nope uponit7771 Aug 2013 #36
My point is that you cannot cite "the law" when the law is unjust. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #38
Then you change the law from inside not break it needlessly and the argument of uponit7771 Aug 2013 #44
I agree that people of color have it worse under our legal system...and you already knew I did. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #59
"Needlessly?" Seems the stimulus it provides is needed. Wilms Aug 2013 #68
OK, but document classification is not "unjust" Recursion Aug 2013 #102
A suspected terrorist? morningfog Aug 2013 #67
So the NYT and Washington Post reporters and editors who aided and abetted Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #83
so all laws should be obeyed even when those laws violate basic civil liberties?????? bowens43 Aug 2013 #126
People are calling him a mule and a trafficker. They are infantilizing him Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #18
If he went on a mission to transport laptops, ets for GG then he is classified as a mule. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #27
Using the term "mule" in this context implies that there is no moral difference Ken Burch Aug 2013 #69
We don't know if the information deserves to be creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #93
GG has been publishing information, maybe Miranda should punish GG for setting him up. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #111
Mule, the device of transportation, Miranda was a mule for GG, GG did not want to transport Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #110
because they care more about Obama's reputation than the direction America is headed Skittles Aug 2013 #31
Precisely - IMHO - Dedicated Obama Supporters Are Having Difficulty Supporting A Bush Era Program cantbeserious Aug 2013 #47
Sadly, it seems cognitive dissonance is at play with some people here. ohnoyoudidnt Aug 2013 #50
they'd be reacting differently if it was a Dem other than Obama, too Skittles Aug 2013 #64
And the Tiger-Beat adoration Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #116
More likely they are knowingly facilitating the direction America is headed. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #52
BINGO cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #62
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #87
This! Exactly this! RetroLounge Aug 2013 #107
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #37
Because the term "Democrat" has been coopted quakerboy Aug 2013 #55
How can any sentient being defend this? mia Aug 2013 #56
You ARE aware that Greenwald's partner was caught with stolen classified info, right? ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #70
So what if the information was "classified"? our national security state is so out of control Ken Burch Aug 2013 #76
I-binned :-| n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #99
... RetroLounge Aug 2013 #109
"reality-based commnunity" Skittles Aug 2013 #117
Huh? Caretha Aug 2013 #129
Here's your link ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #135
Because they are raging hypocrites who will defend anything a govt. agency that answers to Obama MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #58
It's not democrat issue liberal N proud Aug 2013 #60
How could any Democrat put his partner jazzimov Aug 2013 #66
You can't put this on Greenwald. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #79
Travelling through the UK is 'in harm's way'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #122
there is a struggle between those of us who believe in the liberal and democratic society and those Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #71
Thank you for stating it so well. mia Aug 2013 #77
hear, hear. Little Star Aug 2013 #127
I agree gopiscrap Aug 2013 #91
Oh that question's easy to answer -- they can't. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #98
I couldn't have said it better myself. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #121
I don't know any Democrats who ever supported these Bush policies and I don't any sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #100
Good point Sabrina Caretha Aug 2013 #131
I don't decide everything by whose side creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #104
My friend, these folks see the exact same world a TeaPubliKlan does TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #112
Over the years that I've been reading DU Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #113
Thank you for your post, Summer.. a voice Cha Aug 2013 #115
Thank you Summer. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #120
Opinion of a lawyer who piloted the 2000 Act through the Lords: Miranda should not have been detaine muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #124
Good heavens frazzled Aug 2013 #114
"libertarian melodrama" sums it up nicely. great white snark Aug 2013 #119
It only stopped at 9 hours because, if they'd kept the guy any longer, Ken Burch Aug 2013 #134
How can any American oppose it? Little Milly Aug 2013 #118
enjoy your probably brief stay..... bowens43 Aug 2013 #128
Memo to self: Must join group hysteria or stay will be brief. Little Milly Aug 2013 #132
Because there is a group here on DU who are true Authoritarian Fascists 1awake Aug 2013 #123
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