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Cerridwen

(13,251 posts)
10. Sucks to see daily abuses of "those people" (edited to match edited)
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:02 PM
Aug 2013

infringing on "your people?"

Tough.

Deal.

When they "come for you" will there be anyone to defend your cause?

I don't care. I'll be long "detained."

eta: fat fingers

additional edit: we did bring this to the attention of many "democrats." They were fine with the anything so long as it benefited them. The rest of us? Who gives a flying fuck.

Good Question - Have Wondered The Same cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1
Democrats and Progressives are not the same thing necessarily LearningCurve Aug 2013 #2
True that. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #6
Well said! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #28
Who exactly is willing to pay ordinary Democrats creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #75
Yes, the conservative Democrats were adamant supporters of slavery at one time, Zorra Aug 2013 #17
"Democrats". Not Democrats. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #3
What you said. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #95
It's been kind of quiet on this board about Defending Miranda.... KoKo Aug 2013 #4
Indeed, additional insight from Barry Eisler. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #86
How true the last line from your exerpt.... Little Star Aug 2013 #125
Gonna Be A Quiet Thread... But We Are Here... With YOU... And David... And Glenn... WillyT Aug 2013 #5
....and all the others who have been shut up, shut down, Willy grasswire Aug 2013 #8
I Hear Ya... But As The Oldest, With Three Younger Sisters... WillyT Aug 2013 #11
love that as a quote..."doing the right thing Swagman Aug 2013 #72
Apparently pretty easily. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #7
I'm not defending it nor do I care ChangeUp106 Aug 2013 #9
Sucks to see daily abuses of "those people" (edited to match edited) Cerridwen Aug 2013 #10
We did burnodo Aug 2013 #13
Perhaps you have ADHD? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #43
''Just make this NSA story STOP PLEASE!'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #101
When you help people who are breaking the law please expect to become a suspect and then uponit7771 Aug 2013 #12
who broke a law? burnodo Aug 2013 #14
The person who admitted to hiring onto a company for the sole purpose of stealing from it and the uponit7771 Aug 2013 #15
Was Snowden in London the other day? burnodo Aug 2013 #16
Nope, just the people aiding a law breaker.... further uponit7771 Aug 2013 #19
and "they" were terrorists? burnodo Aug 2013 #21
Depends on what they were trying to do with the stolen gov info or what the person who stole them uponit7771 Aug 2013 #22
so "their" status as possible terrorists depends on what the police find? burnodo Aug 2013 #24
Nope, on the word "possible" alone...see, you don't screw with the gov this way and there's no ... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #25
so they should stop you and hold you in the airport for 9 hours burnodo Aug 2013 #32
If I stole gov info and could be possibly helping terrorist or who the go considers enemies then not uponit7771 Aug 2013 #33
but you could be a possible terrorist burnodo Aug 2013 #39
Yes, steal gov info give to AQ and help them attack the US to bring down and admin uponit7771 Aug 2013 #45
"bring down and(sic) admin" burnodo Aug 2013 #48
Legitimate link and quote to US citizens being "spied" on!? Videoing a person walking into a store uponit7771 Aug 2013 #53
It's going to be pretty hard to believe that the NSA R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #74
You know perfectly well that Greenwald and Miranda aren't giving info to Al Qaida. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #61
lol....had me, GG is an asshole...I've seen him proffer a position and if challenged even a little b uponit7771 Aug 2013 #63
It doesn't matter what Greenwald is like as a person. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #65
They probably are on a terrorist list creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #73
If Miranda was illegally carrying classified information, why wasn't he arrested? burnodo Aug 2013 #81
Because he just received data from Laura Poitras perhaps? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #89
That wasn't what I was talking about burnodo Aug 2013 #90
because they found what they were looking for perhaps... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #92
The information is encrypted creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #94
his other partner is an award-winning fillmmaker noiretextatique Aug 2013 #133
and who admitted to hiring onto a company for the sole purpose of stealing from it?? burnodo Aug 2013 #20
Link inside uponit7771 Aug 2013 #23
now you have heard of that, the link is provided to you below Whisp Aug 2013 #26
Well, good for him! burnodo Aug 2013 #30
lol! okay. Let's encourage more of that kind of theft. Whisp Aug 2013 #34
the Pauls burnodo Aug 2013 #40
no...no .. fuck the over racist bastard pauls, ....fuck em good too... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #46
I think you might need some sleep burnodo Aug 2013 #49
When the Government does *wrong they should be exposed. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #82
I applaud Snowden for exposing the Enemy Within and Swagman Aug 2013 #85
Link and quote ANY of the activities PROVEN to be illegal and I'm not talking about internal uponit7771 Aug 2013 #35
"I'm not talking about internal audits that no one believes anyway" burnodo Aug 2013 #41
No, I admit I'd like the link and quote proof of law breaking I asked for uponit7771 Aug 2013 #42
Your post showed that the audit was a joke burnodo Aug 2013 #51
False, and still no link and quote. My post said no one would believe them as they haven't uponit7771 Aug 2013 #54
They haven't done ANY oversight burnodo Aug 2013 #84
Really? one_voice Aug 2013 #57
OK, but you're trying to tell me what Snowden did was a crime burnodo Aug 2013 #88
No, you don't get to compare... one_voice Aug 2013 #96
so your definition of crimes is all that matters burnodo Aug 2013 #97
Stop twisting shit... one_voice Aug 2013 #103
Stealing what? burnodo Aug 2013 #105
Does it matter?... one_voice Aug 2013 #106
Oh? What am I? burnodo Aug 2013 #108
AMEN!!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #130
yes I congratulate him as well. And I believe he has been extraordinarily brave Swagman Aug 2013 #80
did you break the law ? Swagman Aug 2013 #78
So you'd have said the Freedom Riders and those who helped them had it coming? Ken Burch Aug 2013 #29
For helping people register to vote? nope uponit7771 Aug 2013 #36
My point is that you cannot cite "the law" when the law is unjust. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #38
Then you change the law from inside not break it needlessly and the argument of uponit7771 Aug 2013 #44
I agree that people of color have it worse under our legal system...and you already knew I did. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #59
"Needlessly?" Seems the stimulus it provides is needed. Wilms Aug 2013 #68
OK, but document classification is not "unjust" Recursion Aug 2013 #102
A suspected terrorist? morningfog Aug 2013 #67
So the NYT and Washington Post reporters and editors who aided and abetted Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #83
so all laws should be obeyed even when those laws violate basic civil liberties?????? bowens43 Aug 2013 #126
People are calling him a mule and a trafficker. They are infantilizing him Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #18
If he went on a mission to transport laptops, ets for GG then he is classified as a mule. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #27
Using the term "mule" in this context implies that there is no moral difference Ken Burch Aug 2013 #69
We don't know if the information deserves to be creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #93
GG has been publishing information, maybe Miranda should punish GG for setting him up. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #111
Mule, the device of transportation, Miranda was a mule for GG, GG did not want to transport Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #110
because they care more about Obama's reputation than the direction America is headed Skittles Aug 2013 #31
Precisely - IMHO - Dedicated Obama Supporters Are Having Difficulty Supporting A Bush Era Program cantbeserious Aug 2013 #47
Sadly, it seems cognitive dissonance is at play with some people here. ohnoyoudidnt Aug 2013 #50
they'd be reacting differently if it was a Dem other than Obama, too Skittles Aug 2013 #64
And the Tiger-Beat adoration Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #116
More likely they are knowingly facilitating the direction America is headed. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #52
BINGO cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #62
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #87
This! Exactly this! RetroLounge Aug 2013 #107
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #37
Because the term "Democrat" has been coopted quakerboy Aug 2013 #55
How can any sentient being defend this? mia Aug 2013 #56
You ARE aware that Greenwald's partner was caught with stolen classified info, right? ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #70
So what if the information was "classified"? our national security state is so out of control Ken Burch Aug 2013 #76
I-binned :-| n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #99
... RetroLounge Aug 2013 #109
"reality-based commnunity" Skittles Aug 2013 #117
Huh? Caretha Aug 2013 #129
Here's your link ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #135
Because they are raging hypocrites who will defend anything a govt. agency that answers to Obama MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #58
It's not democrat issue liberal N proud Aug 2013 #60
How could any Democrat put his partner jazzimov Aug 2013 #66
You can't put this on Greenwald. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #79
Travelling through the UK is 'in harm's way'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #122
there is a struggle between those of us who believe in the liberal and democratic society and those Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #71
Thank you for stating it so well. mia Aug 2013 #77
hear, hear. Little Star Aug 2013 #127
I agree gopiscrap Aug 2013 #91
Oh that question's easy to answer -- they can't. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #98
I couldn't have said it better myself. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #121
I don't know any Democrats who ever supported these Bush policies and I don't any sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #100
Good point Sabrina Caretha Aug 2013 #131
I don't decide everything by whose side creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #104
My friend, these folks see the exact same world a TeaPubliKlan does TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #112
Over the years that I've been reading DU Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #113
Thank you for your post, Summer.. a voice Cha Aug 2013 #115
Thank you Summer. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #120
Opinion of a lawyer who piloted the 2000 Act through the Lords: Miranda should not have been detaine muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #124
Good heavens frazzled Aug 2013 #114
"libertarian melodrama" sums it up nicely. great white snark Aug 2013 #119
It only stopped at 9 hours because, if they'd kept the guy any longer, Ken Burch Aug 2013 #134
How can any American oppose it? Little Milly Aug 2013 #118
enjoy your probably brief stay..... bowens43 Aug 2013 #128
Memo to self: Must join group hysteria or stay will be brief. Little Milly Aug 2013 #132
Because there is a group here on DU who are true Authoritarian Fascists 1awake Aug 2013 #123
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