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Bandit

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64. If it were Government insurance there would be a lot more happy Liberals but it is not.

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:53 PM

Aug 2013

You will end up with Private insurance whether you get a government subsidy or pay for it out of your own pocket but the Government will not issue you a government policy..Even if you qualify for VA benefits the Government does not issue you an insurance policy. They provide the doctors and the clinics or hospitals and you must use there facilities, but there is no insurance policy.

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According to our doctor, there is a new law related to Obamacare - they must drug-test you [View all] Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 OP

I call major bullshit. babylonsister Aug 2013 #1

Yeah, ask the asshole to produce something printed kysrsoze Aug 2013 #2

Ohio. This is the only thing I've been able to find on it --- from NORML Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 #5

Screening is not the same as testing The empressof all Aug 2013 #16

screening most certainly is testing. magical thyme Aug 2013 #61

I understand your point The empressof all Aug 2013 #65

the point is that it is open to interpretation magical thyme Aug 2013 #76

Well You and I agree on a great deal The empressof all Aug 2013 #77

Also... Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 #8

I'd watch that PCP if i were you. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #12

Bullshit, that is very expensive. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #3

I'd find another doc. Hoyt Aug 2013 #4

Ask your doctor if it hurt much when she pulled that whopper out of her ass rustydog Aug 2013 #6

I just freaking spewed water all over the place. reflection Aug 2013 #60

I did a quick search on this and came up with nothing. arcane1 Aug 2013 #7

That is my take on it, too Warpy Aug 2013 #9

Users of e-cigs will also obviously test positive for nicotine. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #41

People using gum or patches will test positive, too. nt. Mariana Aug 2013 #99

LOL, fucking Republican doctors. tridim Aug 2013 #10

That was so last century. RC Aug 2013 #31

Not in Arizona, it isn't: freshwest Aug 2013 #39

O, FGS. Tell her to turn off FOX. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #11

New Obamacare Wrinkle: A Way For Smokers to Avoid Paying a Penalty burnodo Aug 2013 #13

Sorry to break this to everyone, but it's actually NOT bullshit. Xithras Aug 2013 #14

Hilarious that right out of the box "it's a LIE!" then someone that actually knows facts, like you.. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #15

However, it's not required by "Obamacare" Lex Aug 2013 #80

So this is a way for health insurers to charge more money to test for illicit drug use? dkf Aug 2013 #18

If this is the case....It will be tested thoroughly in the courts. The empressof all Aug 2013 #19

And the courts will find nothing wrong with it. nt bananas Aug 2013 #34

Kick. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #20

Internet HOAX! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #49

It's not required zipplewrath Aug 2013 #30

True. The government doesn't require it. It simply allowed insurance companies to require it. Xithras Aug 2013 #59

Our new policies will require something similar alarimer Aug 2013 #74

Some companies are having weigh ins zipplewrath Aug 2013 #75

Last time I went to my primary care physician LibertyLover Aug 2013 #82

Thanks - is coffee on the list? bananas Aug 2013 #32

Looks like people can simply get away by not using drugs 2 days before a blood test. Incitatus Aug 2013 #35

THC can stay in the blood a lot longer than that especially for medical marijuana patients who liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #68

how will this affect medical marijuana patients? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #67

I think this is the answer to LWolf Aug 2013 #81

Gee, if only someone could have foreseen this kind of thing... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #17

Internet Hoax! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #48

Wonder if those of us with private insurance will be required to do it, too? lynne Aug 2013 #21

Obamacare is not insurance Bradical79 Aug 2013 #24

Obama care IS insurance. RC Aug 2013 #33

No, it's not. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #83

What is it then, if it is not insurance? RC Aug 2013 #89

Really? jberryhill Aug 2013 #92

I know very well what Obamacare is and where it came from. RC Aug 2013 #96

You didn't get the memo, huh? lynne Aug 2013 #43

If it were Government insurance there would be a lot more happy Liberals but it is not. Bandit Aug 2013 #64

It certainly isn't insurance. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #84

Unfortunately, you are deeply misinformed jberryhill Aug 2013 #90

Oh, so cute. n/t tazkcmo Aug 2013 #53

Yes, I am. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #85

Good golly jberryhill Aug 2013 #29

Private meaning outside the premium and coverage confines and rules of the ACA - lynne Aug 2013 #45

Uh... jberryhill Aug 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradical79 Aug 2013 #88

Apparently. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #87

It's pretty amazing to me jberryhill Aug 2013 #91

I don't know if it's Obamacare or not... FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #22

doc office policy, not law. my PCP wanted me to sign a contract that allowed for random drugs tests dionysus Aug 2013 #28

You should. Basically they are saying the do not trust you to tell them the truth. RC Aug 2013 #37

I don't recall where the Constitution guarantees FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #42

Reread your post 21 again. RC Aug 2013 #52

Unless I'm mistaken, the Constitution deals directly with our freedoms. FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #69

Those tests are useless and I'll tell you why: bunnies Aug 2013 #73

If only there wasn't a penalty. Because doctors should know about any pnwmom Aug 2013 #23

....and treat us like children unable to tell them what we take? snappyturtle Aug 2013 #27

I'm not too sure what this has to with Obama care Texasgal Aug 2013 #25

One doesn't 'apply for Obamacare.' elleng Aug 2013 #26

i have blood tests every 6 months because of the medications I am on.... chillfactor Aug 2013 #36

Ask her to show you the law/policy and Cerridwen Aug 2013 #38

It doesn't exist! It's a HOAX! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #47

This is what happens Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #40

+1 n/t area51 Aug 2013 #63

Another internet hoax! rdharma Aug 2013 #44

Just like the question of life after death, the one thing we know for certain is that Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #58

or not. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #70

Which state? cally Aug 2013 #46

How many lies is it possible to tell about the ACA? Lint Head Aug 2013 #50

Cough--bullshit---cough. MADem Aug 2013 #51

well this is a new internet hoax... madrchsod Aug 2013 #55

I have talked to several doctors wives that go to my gym doc03 Aug 2013 #56

Greed kills. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #71

The Golden Halo effect. (Does anybody even know about this stuff anymore?) Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #72

Partially true from my reading of the document in question pediatricmedic Aug 2013 #57

Of course, no surprise at all. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #62

My doctor said that all the doctors in the UK work for the government. KamaAina Aug 2013 #66

Having an MD after your name doesn't mean you are smart...You just are trained. The empressof all Aug 2013 #78

I realized this a few years ago Bradical79 Aug 2013 #95

But think about how much you saved jberryhill Aug 2013 #98

More scare-mongering from right-wing medical providers. Aristus Aug 2013 #79

I don't believe you. DirkGently Aug 2013 #86

There are some shockingly stupid doctors out there Bradical79 Aug 2013 #93

There is always that jberryhill Aug 2013 #94

You're right. I have no way of knowing. I amend to say DirkGently Aug 2013 #97