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PowerToThePeople

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150. You do not get it. I do not care. You would like me to care
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:29 PM
Aug 2013

You do not get it. I do not care. You would like me to care because that is the argument that is constantly used here whenever anyone questions the surveillance state. But, it is FALSE. I have no reason to answer your question. It is a bullshit question.

here is your whole argument in a nutshell

Just because Assange is a political idiot DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #1
no surprise here zappaman Aug 2013 #2
Shocking. bunnies Aug 2013 #3
And let's not forget that Greenwald pushes for Nader's tactic of destroying the Democratic party- KittyWampus Aug 2013 #4
Yup: Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #13
Insulting and attacking everyone Hissyspit Aug 2013 #78
And people cheering the 3rd Way and New Democrats have no idea how counterproductive they are being RC Aug 2013 #160
This appears to be taken way out of context if you watch the video. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5
lots of people have an anti-war stance. I do. Whisp Aug 2013 #14
He was answering the interviewer's leading questions? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #17
Except in Assange's own words on multiple occasions. LOL! Your avatar in this context is hilarious. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19
There is a big political difference between a libertarian and a Libertarian. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #79
And Assange supports the version associated with Ron/Rand Paul. ie corporate capitalism. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #85
He was talking about their anti-war stances. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #88
He's a confirmed liar so you never know what he is talking about or what he means. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #98
Perhaps he should run for President then. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #139
I'm sure he wishes he could. Power is his goal, not the truth. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #141
Psicop will give you one million dollars if you can prove that you can read minds. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #146
That's what deductive reasoning is for. Assange and Greenwald all but ignored Bush and Cheney. Now stevenleser Aug 2013 #149
Wikileaks has been active since 2001. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #158
2006. You understand that makes it worse that they existed during Bush and said nothing about him of stevenleser Aug 2013 #165
They did talk about Bush, it just wasn't covered nearly as well. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #166
Little to nothing about wrongdoing by BushCo here is the wikipedia description of them 2006-2008 stevenleser Aug 2013 #167
Were there many documents leaked to wikileaks during that time? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #168
Are you a libertarian? snooper2 Aug 2013 #151
I can't stand Paul but is Pat Leahy a dumb fuck? cali Aug 2013 #44
What a weak attempt at defense! MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #66
SMH Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #184
This man is a real wacko: "The only hope as far as electoral politics are concerned struggle4progress Aug 2013 #21
That is because Sanders is just one person PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #25
Considered objectively, on the basis of what would result from their philosophy, struggle4progress Aug 2013 #65
I agree with your statements here. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #67
I wouldn't have been so charitable whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #28
Ya, OP is an outright fabrication to support 3rd-way views. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #70
Ron Paul ProSense Aug 2013 #37
No it doesn't. Can't put lipstick on this pig. MADem Aug 2013 #113
You must not have listened to the video. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #114
Yep, it's pretty clear, all right. nt MADem Aug 2013 #117
Assange isn't American Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #6
Snowden is also a Paul fan. The proper context is hackers who are anarchists/libertarians KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #10
Snowden was most likely groomed by Assange's cohorts. And there is a great deal of difference KittyWampus Aug 2013 #16
Domestic policy is irrelevant (to Assange anyway) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #20
Except in Assange's own words (reposting from above) KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24
And "libertarian" has a different meaning in the rest of the English-speaking world... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #26
except I just provided plenty of evidence in his OWN WORDS what he means & stands for. LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #27
Did you? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #35
Clever argument; but, when someone says, 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #122
Which from the perspective of an observer outside the USA... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #125
Those are his own words Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #33
What does Snowden have to do with Assange? War Horse Aug 2013 #64
Who do you think is providing Snowden with cash and a legal team? The Tooth Fairy? MADem Aug 2013 #116
The generous perception you attribute to him is completely untrue. stevenleser Aug 2013 #83
And how many of those people have gotten a lot of coverage in foreign media? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #86
Kucinich ran for the Democratic nomination several times. BBC has covered Conyers a lot among others stevenleser Aug 2013 #90
Well, nobody said he was smart. Rex Aug 2013 #8
See post 5 Catherina Aug 2013 #34
Oh, taken out of context...no more surprising to see that Rex Aug 2013 #42
And not without reason ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #123
Does CodePink post here? Rex Aug 2013 #135
code pink is so left they "stand with rand" dionysus Aug 2013 #156
Their supporters certainly do ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #169
I'm sure you do believe that. Rex Aug 2013 #180
It also fits ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #182
See my posts… oh, that's right. You plonked me. LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #53
Remember....Wikileaks recently attacked Obama for using a teleprompter Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #9
Fucking wikileaks attacked Pres Obama for using Cha Aug 2013 #46
Indeed they did Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #48
Yeah, we get a lot of idiotic "authoritarian" moronic digs around here Cha Aug 2013 #63
It's Stasi bots now. 'Authoritarian' has too many syllables for the froth hating minds. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #71
The bus will be along in a moment. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #11
holey shitballs.... Whisp Aug 2013 #12
The quotes are taken out of context in order to create a false narative (lie). nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #80
R#2 & K for, well of *course* those are the models. n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #15
Are there any further doubts that Libertarians are the Democratic Party's 'Tea Party'? randome Aug 2013 #18
The people in question are more the Democratic Party's version of Ralph Nader intent on destroying KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
Why do you keep saying that? Libertarians are not part of the Democratic Party. Rex Aug 2013 #23
But Libertarians primarily have Democrats in their crosshairs. randome Aug 2013 #32
Their professed alignment doesn't matter? Wow, what have you been smoking? Rex Aug 2013 #36
I didn't say the analogy was perfect. randome Aug 2013 #39
Such as what? Give me an example of a cause the both rally around. Rex Aug 2013 #41
The basic contemptuousness of politics. Leaving gay rights and pot use up to the states. randome Aug 2013 #45
What spell? What did he promise them that was so alluring Rex Aug 2013 #54
They have strange ideas. randome Aug 2013 #47
'Progressive libertarian' is an oxymoron. Rex Aug 2013 #57
All the libertarians I know claim to be solidly on the right, not the left Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #174
Can't argue with that kind of solid logic. Rex Aug 2013 #181
I think he's talking about that rather new DevonRex Aug 2013 #38
What liberal do you know that is all for privatizing the public school system? Rex Aug 2013 #40
I'm a liberal but I'm not a purist, an outrage junkie & I don't want to blow up the Dem party KittyWampus Aug 2013 #52
Then saying you are a 'libertarian in sheep's clothing on DU' Rex Aug 2013 #62
They all end up getting tombstoned when they DevonRex Aug 2013 #74
Yeah you know it. Rex Aug 2013 #106
So funny that you knew DevonRex Aug 2013 #121
I think it is a he too and I hope they moved to NK Rex Aug 2013 #136
I think both parties could split. bemildred Aug 2013 #29
Libertarians don't identify with the democrats. sufrommich Aug 2013 #30
It is an agenda by a select few here. Rex Aug 2013 #31
it's not to slandering "the Left", it's about being honest about the far left outrage addicts. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #50
Even IF they are far left outrage addicts...they are LEFT. Rex Aug 2013 #60
Assange clearly knows jackshit about U.S. politics cali Aug 2013 #43
No, he does know plenty about US politics. That's the whole point. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #49
got any evidence for that claim, kitty? cali Aug 2013 #51
Well, he used Manning and Snowden. He's obviously been involved in what's transpired here AND KittyWampus Aug 2013 #55
lol. you should know, kitten. You embarass yourself with virtually every post. cali Aug 2013 #77
The quotes are taken out of context in order to create a false narative (lie). nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #81
He probably knows more than the average American... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #101
Their fan club here have been ratfucked by the Pauls MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #56
Their form of Libertarianism that functions within Capitalism equates to the Dark Ages SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #58
Correct. Feudalism is the model they want to bring back. We would all belong to the corporations stevenleser Aug 2013 #102
How dare Assange smear himself as a Ron/Rand Paul fan!!!! nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #59
He's engaging in CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #61
That's a really unfortunate statement. napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #68
I don't give a fuck who they admire or why. Autumn Aug 2013 #69
So apparently you support the Pauls too...Good to know! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #127
Apparently you read support into anything. If all you have is a nail Autumn Aug 2013 #143
You made up the bit about him admiring Drudge David Krout Aug 2013 #72
Matt Drudge is a racist and a liar and Assange is a whiner from his hidey hole Cha Aug 2013 #73
Once in a rare moment, the Pauls DO have a good position, but it is always based Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #75
But...but...but he's a hero. So much for that laughable meme. How many posts OregonBlue Aug 2013 #76
Oddly enough... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #82
No, those cases are fails all on their own, like the helicopter video "Collateral Murder" which stevenleser Aug 2013 #84
The Collateral Murder video is not the only thing... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #87
Yes, it's besides the point because the group had three armed members including people with RPGs. stevenleser Aug 2013 #89
Bullshit. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #91
Bullshit. Assange lied about it and submitted an edited video. That is fact and not in dispute. stevenleser Aug 2013 #93
Yuck. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #94
Thank you for finally admitting that Assanges lies are disgusting. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #96
Thank you for confirming... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #92
Thank you for refusing to address Assanges' confirmed lies about that video. stevenleser Aug 2013 #95
And Assange released the entire unedited video... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #97
And he ultimately admitted he lied and there were weapons in the group. Yes, he failed epically. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #99
Wow, there was so much more to it than that. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #104
WTF? He lied about the fundamental premise of his release of that video. There's not more to it. stevenleser Aug 2013 #108
Assange released the entire unedited video... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #105
AND admitted there were folks with RPGs and AK47s in the group that was fired on. I know you dont stevenleser Aug 2013 #109
No one had to take Assange's word for it... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #110
No one had to take Assange's word for it? You mean like the majority of folks who will never see the stevenleser Aug 2013 #112
I get that you don't like the guy... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #118
I have no idea what he is like personally. I know he lied here about something huge and he misled stevenleser Aug 2013 #120
It does explain his admiration for Matt Drudge and his kind of sensationalistic "journalism" VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #129
That statement rounds out the picture. He lied with the helicopter video to hurt Obama stevenleser Aug 2013 #133
Well, there's a shocker...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #100
We tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen. ucrdem Aug 2013 #103
The "libertarian" branch of the GOP opposes women's rights, gay rights, Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #107
And the LIBERTARIAN BRANCH OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #171
I agree that we should work with most anyone to maintain civil rights. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #175
The problem is that like liberalism we really do not know the meaning of the terms nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #176
I get really sick of this logical fallacy. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #111
It's the conservative way. When you have nothing, you constantly have to make shit up Zorra Aug 2013 #124
Them and a bunch of people on this site. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #126
I do not think they are even "left" leaning PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #137
Ask Skinner. I've complained about these disruptors multiple times directly to him. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #138
Drudge called for forced silencing of those who opposed the Iraq war. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #115
I guess that is the "Free Speech" stuff that Assange admires so much. I think we can see a pattern stevenleser Aug 2013 #119
Where were these "libertarians" during Bush's term? Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #128
FAIL PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #131
Agreed. That has clearly come out as the agenda. Their goal is to further Right Wing Libertarianism stevenleser Aug 2013 #132
They will lie and have lied to promote that agenda. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #134
I guess this means you join your heroes in supporting Ron Paul and Matt Drudge stevenleser Aug 2013 #140
And I guess you can go back worshipping Carl Rove and Dick Cheney while watching FoxNEWS. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #142
Nope, those guys are in your camp. Assange and Greenwald had very little bad to say about them. stevenleser Aug 2013 #144
No thanks PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #145
That's what I thought. I can prove my opposition to them, while Assange and Greenwald let Bush and stevenleser Aug 2013 #147
You do not get it. I do not care. You would like me to care PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #150
I don't care what you think. Mr responses to you are about other people who might read them. Not you stevenleser Aug 2013 #155
"My responses to you are not about you." WTF? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #163
That's some righteous bringing on the facts, sir. great white snark Aug 2013 #153
Thank you! stevenleser Aug 2013 #164
Correct. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #177
You expect white males to not be either a conservative or a libertarian? AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #130
Uh... white male here! Initech Aug 2013 #179
IT'S NOT ABOUT THEM! Fearless Aug 2013 #148
The dots have now been filled in to the point that there is now a complete path. stevenleser Aug 2013 #152
Is government spying right or wrong depending on who is president? Fearless Aug 2013 #154
Assange and Greenwald are not credible, so it's as if there are no allegations at this point. stevenleser Aug 2013 #157
That's false logic Fearless Aug 2013 #159
No it's not. Proven liars are not to be believed, particularly with things like this. stevenleser Aug 2013 #161
Because they are shown espousing certain political beliefs in this thread Fearless Aug 2013 #162
Wikileaks was founded in 2006, and did not publish their first document until Dec. 2006. Zorra Aug 2013 #172
Tons of people wrote about Bush's illegal NSA spying in 2007, including me. Some wrote earlier. stevenleser Aug 2013 #173
What phase of the propaganda campaign is this? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #170
Gross!!!! Initech Aug 2013 #178
IMO Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #183
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