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napoleon_in_rags

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68. That's a really unfortunate statement.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:22 PM
Aug 2013

There's a load of people on the left fighting for civil libertarian causes. Look at the Amash amendment votes. This section of the left agrees with generally libertarian sections of the right on civil libertarian causes, but not on governments role in providing social services for elderly or regulating large businesses. By saying "The libertarian aspect of the Republican Party", Assange is saying people fighting for civil liberties, peace, demilitarisation on the left really don't matter, and he's taking a stance on de-regulating big business and cutting social services. Not cool.

Just because Assange is a political idiot DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #1
no surprise here zappaman Aug 2013 #2
Shocking. bunnies Aug 2013 #3
And let's not forget that Greenwald pushes for Nader's tactic of destroying the Democratic party- KittyWampus Aug 2013 #4
Yup: Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #13
Insulting and attacking everyone Hissyspit Aug 2013 #78
And people cheering the 3rd Way and New Democrats have no idea how counterproductive they are being RC Aug 2013 #160
This appears to be taken way out of context if you watch the video. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5
lots of people have an anti-war stance. I do. Whisp Aug 2013 #14
He was answering the interviewer's leading questions? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #17
Except in Assange's own words on multiple occasions. LOL! Your avatar in this context is hilarious. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19
There is a big political difference between a libertarian and a Libertarian. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #79
And Assange supports the version associated with Ron/Rand Paul. ie corporate capitalism. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #85
He was talking about their anti-war stances. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #88
He's a confirmed liar so you never know what he is talking about or what he means. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #98
Perhaps he should run for President then. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #139
I'm sure he wishes he could. Power is his goal, not the truth. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #141
Psicop will give you one million dollars if you can prove that you can read minds. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #146
That's what deductive reasoning is for. Assange and Greenwald all but ignored Bush and Cheney. Now stevenleser Aug 2013 #149
Wikileaks has been active since 2001. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #158
2006. You understand that makes it worse that they existed during Bush and said nothing about him of stevenleser Aug 2013 #165
They did talk about Bush, it just wasn't covered nearly as well. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #166
Little to nothing about wrongdoing by BushCo here is the wikipedia description of them 2006-2008 stevenleser Aug 2013 #167
Were there many documents leaked to wikileaks during that time? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #168
Are you a libertarian? snooper2 Aug 2013 #151
I can't stand Paul but is Pat Leahy a dumb fuck? cali Aug 2013 #44
What a weak attempt at defense! MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #66
SMH Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #184
This man is a real wacko: "The only hope as far as electoral politics are concerned struggle4progress Aug 2013 #21
That is because Sanders is just one person PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #25
Considered objectively, on the basis of what would result from their philosophy, struggle4progress Aug 2013 #65
I agree with your statements here. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #67
I wouldn't have been so charitable whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #28
Ya, OP is an outright fabrication to support 3rd-way views. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #70
Ron Paul ProSense Aug 2013 #37
No it doesn't. Can't put lipstick on this pig. MADem Aug 2013 #113
You must not have listened to the video. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #114
Yep, it's pretty clear, all right. nt MADem Aug 2013 #117
Assange isn't American Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #6
Snowden is also a Paul fan. The proper context is hackers who are anarchists/libertarians KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #10
Snowden was most likely groomed by Assange's cohorts. And there is a great deal of difference KittyWampus Aug 2013 #16
Domestic policy is irrelevant (to Assange anyway) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #20
Except in Assange's own words (reposting from above) KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24
And "libertarian" has a different meaning in the rest of the English-speaking world... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #26
except I just provided plenty of evidence in his OWN WORDS what he means & stands for. LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #27
Did you? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #35
Clever argument; but, when someone says, 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #122
Which from the perspective of an observer outside the USA... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #125
Those are his own words Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #33
What does Snowden have to do with Assange? War Horse Aug 2013 #64
Who do you think is providing Snowden with cash and a legal team? The Tooth Fairy? MADem Aug 2013 #116
The generous perception you attribute to him is completely untrue. stevenleser Aug 2013 #83
And how many of those people have gotten a lot of coverage in foreign media? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #86
Kucinich ran for the Democratic nomination several times. BBC has covered Conyers a lot among others stevenleser Aug 2013 #90
Well, nobody said he was smart. Rex Aug 2013 #8
See post 5 Catherina Aug 2013 #34
Oh, taken out of context...no more surprising to see that Rex Aug 2013 #42
And not without reason ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #123
Does CodePink post here? Rex Aug 2013 #135
code pink is so left they "stand with rand" dionysus Aug 2013 #156
Their supporters certainly do ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #169
I'm sure you do believe that. Rex Aug 2013 #180
It also fits ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #182
See my posts… oh, that's right. You plonked me. LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #53
Remember....Wikileaks recently attacked Obama for using a teleprompter Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #9
Fucking wikileaks attacked Pres Obama for using Cha Aug 2013 #46
Indeed they did Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #48
Yeah, we get a lot of idiotic "authoritarian" moronic digs around here Cha Aug 2013 #63
It's Stasi bots now. 'Authoritarian' has too many syllables for the froth hating minds. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #71
The bus will be along in a moment. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #11
holey shitballs.... Whisp Aug 2013 #12
The quotes are taken out of context in order to create a false narative (lie). nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #80
R#2 & K for, well of *course* those are the models. n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #15
Are there any further doubts that Libertarians are the Democratic Party's 'Tea Party'? randome Aug 2013 #18
The people in question are more the Democratic Party's version of Ralph Nader intent on destroying KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
Why do you keep saying that? Libertarians are not part of the Democratic Party. Rex Aug 2013 #23
But Libertarians primarily have Democrats in their crosshairs. randome Aug 2013 #32
Their professed alignment doesn't matter? Wow, what have you been smoking? Rex Aug 2013 #36
I didn't say the analogy was perfect. randome Aug 2013 #39
Such as what? Give me an example of a cause the both rally around. Rex Aug 2013 #41
The basic contemptuousness of politics. Leaving gay rights and pot use up to the states. randome Aug 2013 #45
What spell? What did he promise them that was so alluring Rex Aug 2013 #54
They have strange ideas. randome Aug 2013 #47
'Progressive libertarian' is an oxymoron. Rex Aug 2013 #57
All the libertarians I know claim to be solidly on the right, not the left Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #174
Can't argue with that kind of solid logic. Rex Aug 2013 #181
I think he's talking about that rather new DevonRex Aug 2013 #38
What liberal do you know that is all for privatizing the public school system? Rex Aug 2013 #40
I'm a liberal but I'm not a purist, an outrage junkie & I don't want to blow up the Dem party KittyWampus Aug 2013 #52
Then saying you are a 'libertarian in sheep's clothing on DU' Rex Aug 2013 #62
They all end up getting tombstoned when they DevonRex Aug 2013 #74
Yeah you know it. Rex Aug 2013 #106
So funny that you knew DevonRex Aug 2013 #121
I think it is a he too and I hope they moved to NK Rex Aug 2013 #136
I think both parties could split. bemildred Aug 2013 #29
Libertarians don't identify with the democrats. sufrommich Aug 2013 #30
It is an agenda by a select few here. Rex Aug 2013 #31
it's not to slandering "the Left", it's about being honest about the far left outrage addicts. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #50
Even IF they are far left outrage addicts...they are LEFT. Rex Aug 2013 #60
Assange clearly knows jackshit about U.S. politics cali Aug 2013 #43
No, he does know plenty about US politics. That's the whole point. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #49
got any evidence for that claim, kitty? cali Aug 2013 #51
Well, he used Manning and Snowden. He's obviously been involved in what's transpired here AND KittyWampus Aug 2013 #55
lol. you should know, kitten. You embarass yourself with virtually every post. cali Aug 2013 #77
The quotes are taken out of context in order to create a false narative (lie). nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #81
He probably knows more than the average American... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #101
Their fan club here have been ratfucked by the Pauls MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #56
Their form of Libertarianism that functions within Capitalism equates to the Dark Ages SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #58
Correct. Feudalism is the model they want to bring back. We would all belong to the corporations stevenleser Aug 2013 #102
How dare Assange smear himself as a Ron/Rand Paul fan!!!! nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #59
He's engaging in CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #61
That's a really unfortunate statement. napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #68
I don't give a fuck who they admire or why. Autumn Aug 2013 #69
So apparently you support the Pauls too...Good to know! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #127
Apparently you read support into anything. If all you have is a nail Autumn Aug 2013 #143
You made up the bit about him admiring Drudge David Krout Aug 2013 #72
Matt Drudge is a racist and a liar and Assange is a whiner from his hidey hole Cha Aug 2013 #73
Once in a rare moment, the Pauls DO have a good position, but it is always based Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #75
But...but...but he's a hero. So much for that laughable meme. How many posts OregonBlue Aug 2013 #76
Oddly enough... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #82
No, those cases are fails all on their own, like the helicopter video "Collateral Murder" which stevenleser Aug 2013 #84
The Collateral Murder video is not the only thing... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #87
Yes, it's besides the point because the group had three armed members including people with RPGs. stevenleser Aug 2013 #89
Bullshit. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #91
Bullshit. Assange lied about it and submitted an edited video. That is fact and not in dispute. stevenleser Aug 2013 #93
Yuck. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #94
Thank you for finally admitting that Assanges lies are disgusting. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #96
Thank you for confirming... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #92
Thank you for refusing to address Assanges' confirmed lies about that video. stevenleser Aug 2013 #95
And Assange released the entire unedited video... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #97
And he ultimately admitted he lied and there were weapons in the group. Yes, he failed epically. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #99
Wow, there was so much more to it than that. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #104
WTF? He lied about the fundamental premise of his release of that video. There's not more to it. stevenleser Aug 2013 #108
Assange released the entire unedited video... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #105
AND admitted there were folks with RPGs and AK47s in the group that was fired on. I know you dont stevenleser Aug 2013 #109
No one had to take Assange's word for it... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #110
No one had to take Assange's word for it? You mean like the majority of folks who will never see the stevenleser Aug 2013 #112
I get that you don't like the guy... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #118
I have no idea what he is like personally. I know he lied here about something huge and he misled stevenleser Aug 2013 #120
It does explain his admiration for Matt Drudge and his kind of sensationalistic "journalism" VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #129
That statement rounds out the picture. He lied with the helicopter video to hurt Obama stevenleser Aug 2013 #133
Well, there's a shocker...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #100
We tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen. ucrdem Aug 2013 #103
The "libertarian" branch of the GOP opposes women's rights, gay rights, Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #107
And the LIBERTARIAN BRANCH OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #171
I agree that we should work with most anyone to maintain civil rights. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #175
The problem is that like liberalism we really do not know the meaning of the terms nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #176
I get really sick of this logical fallacy. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #111
It's the conservative way. When you have nothing, you constantly have to make shit up Zorra Aug 2013 #124
Them and a bunch of people on this site. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #126
I do not think they are even "left" leaning PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #137
Ask Skinner. I've complained about these disruptors multiple times directly to him. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #138
Drudge called for forced silencing of those who opposed the Iraq war. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #115
I guess that is the "Free Speech" stuff that Assange admires so much. I think we can see a pattern stevenleser Aug 2013 #119
Where were these "libertarians" during Bush's term? Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #128
FAIL PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #131
Agreed. That has clearly come out as the agenda. Their goal is to further Right Wing Libertarianism stevenleser Aug 2013 #132
They will lie and have lied to promote that agenda. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #134
I guess this means you join your heroes in supporting Ron Paul and Matt Drudge stevenleser Aug 2013 #140
And I guess you can go back worshipping Carl Rove and Dick Cheney while watching FoxNEWS. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #142
Nope, those guys are in your camp. Assange and Greenwald had very little bad to say about them. stevenleser Aug 2013 #144
No thanks PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #145
That's what I thought. I can prove my opposition to them, while Assange and Greenwald let Bush and stevenleser Aug 2013 #147
You do not get it. I do not care. You would like me to care PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #150
I don't care what you think. Mr responses to you are about other people who might read them. Not you stevenleser Aug 2013 #155
"My responses to you are not about you." WTF? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #163
That's some righteous bringing on the facts, sir. great white snark Aug 2013 #153
Thank you! stevenleser Aug 2013 #164
Correct. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #177
You expect white males to not be either a conservative or a libertarian? AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #130
Uh... white male here! Initech Aug 2013 #179
IT'S NOT ABOUT THEM! Fearless Aug 2013 #148
The dots have now been filled in to the point that there is now a complete path. stevenleser Aug 2013 #152
Is government spying right or wrong depending on who is president? Fearless Aug 2013 #154
Assange and Greenwald are not credible, so it's as if there are no allegations at this point. stevenleser Aug 2013 #157
That's false logic Fearless Aug 2013 #159
No it's not. Proven liars are not to be believed, particularly with things like this. stevenleser Aug 2013 #161
Because they are shown espousing certain political beliefs in this thread Fearless Aug 2013 #162
Wikileaks was founded in 2006, and did not publish their first document until Dec. 2006. Zorra Aug 2013 #172
Tons of people wrote about Bush's illegal NSA spying in 2007, including me. Some wrote earlier. stevenleser Aug 2013 #173
What phase of the propaganda campaign is this? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #170
Gross!!!! Initech Aug 2013 #178
IMO Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #183
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