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154. Glenn Greenwald's opinion of Obama should

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:23 PM

Aug 2013

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hold about as much water as any of the pundits on Fox News. He has said publicallyduring the last election cycle that his goals politically are to pull as many folks from the dem party over to the Libertarian side (not just on drug legalization). So if supporting Citizens United, the Iraq War, & working with the Kochi Brothers to further their agenda is considered liberal, you are sadly mistaken. To think anything he has to say is based on good faith is naive.

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/04/re-rise-of-the-naderites-glenn-greenwalds-third-party-dreamin/

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The Martin Luther King that Obama does not want you to remember [View all] Catherina Aug 2013 OP

K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #1

K&R x 1000 mazzarro Aug 2013 #98

Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence G_j Aug 2013 #2

In what way has Obama demonstrated Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #3

Listen to the speech, then G_j Aug 2013 #9

Nice deflection. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #18

let's put it this way G_j Aug 2013 #23

Oh, I see. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #38

Talk about deflection. LWolf Aug 2013 #55

The OP clearly states Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #71

. LWolf Aug 2013 #78

Great pic Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #84

And three. LWolf Aug 2013 #187

REALITY is the high proportion of our hungry children... grasswire Aug 2013 #205

ok agreed, the headline could have been better G_j Aug 2013 #94

obamacare and redistribution arely staircase Aug 2013 #100

I thought the gist of the subject was G_j Aug 2013 #115

People blame the president for so much that they cannot even Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #199

If inequality is the actual subject matter... bhikkhu Aug 2013 #112

The "actual subject matter" Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #119

I'm sorry to disappoint you but G_j Aug 2013 #127

I wouldn't call it an obsession. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #129

you might complain about this then G_j Aug 2013 #133

Promoting the idea Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #135

reading comprehension class is over for the day G_j Aug 2013 #139

I'm afraid that reading comprehension Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #145

well good then G_j Aug 2013 #147

You know what's interesting? White conservatives insists that MLK, Jr. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #198

Now, you are deflecting, big time rury Aug 2013 #92

I have no need to deflect. LWolf Aug 2013 #124

You really nailed it here. So right! maddiemom Aug 2013 #214

Beautiful post. woo me with science Aug 2013 #240

You have opened the Social Security can of worms here. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #63

Yeah, fer sure Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #125

Seriously, this is the craziest dennis4868 Aug 2013 #103

Yup, and as sane people like you stop coming, the place gets worse. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #185

I would say the killing of innocents is a pretty glaring 'issue' which MLK spoke about. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #104

You're free to make note Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #120

I didn't say the OP said anything. I said it. Anyone who has kill lists is not in tune with the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #159

Obama has continued to bomb and kill many people including women and children JDPriestly Aug 2013 #118

The question, yet again, goes unanswered: Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #122

Uh, it is useless to enter into debate with the anti-Obama folks. They put words into his mouth and kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #190

Not only do they put words and thoughts into Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #237

It's kind of a core issue. KarKar Aug 2013 #222

The "core issue" I have raised Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #226

Ye shall know them by their fruits. KarKar Aug 2013 #227

"In what way has Obama ever demonstrated that there is any aspect of MLK Maedhros Aug 2013 #51

Oh, I'm sure you could go on Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #67

I'm sure you know this, but I'll post it anyway. Maedhros Aug 2013 #69

You got it! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #176

Thank you. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #181

it's sad you would rather find humor G_j Aug 2013 #72

I find it incredibly humorous Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #128

Go read my post #68 Maedhros Aug 2013 #209

I agree with you, Summer Hathaway. cheapdate Aug 2013 #70

And I agree with you, cheapdate Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #76

So your problem isn't whether we have a president 1awake Aug 2013 #195

If you can't recognize the difference between a questionable "wording choice" cheapdate Aug 2013 #229

I posted this for Summer Hathaway, but it appears nobody has read it. Maedhros Aug 2013 #211

You see what they're doing: using a black man's words to smite Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #196

Show me a single instance in th last two years when truedelphi Aug 2013 #215

So sorry Obama Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #228

OP just went for a cheap demonization of the President CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #232

Thank you. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #31

Not only ProSense Aug 2013 #11

Sorry, ProSense Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #15

Touché arely staircase Aug 2013 #36

Uh oh. bravenak Aug 2013 #68

Ipso facto. cheapdate Aug 2013 #74

NAILED IT. Number23 Aug 2013 #88

HA! N/T Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #95

Whoop, there it is!! The Greenwald defenders-ODSers don't want us Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #201

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #238

I didn't expect you to actually address G_j Aug 2013 #16

they haven't figured out how to throw him under the bus yet. KG Aug 2013 #22

Not publicly, anyway. +1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #30

MKL Jr.'s views on American foreign policy were based on world conditions.... George II Aug 2013 #25

I knew somebody would say that, since he is not around G_j Aug 2013 #34

After listening to this speech I thought how relevant it is to our world conditions today.... midnight Aug 2013 #35

Are you KIDDING?! TWO illegal invasions (Iraq; Afghanistan)?! Gitmo? Drones? The NSA?! WinkyDink Aug 2013 #65

Afghanistan = America's longest war. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #182

And I seriously doubt he would approve of the droning of children. I can't speak for him sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #111

So what is the case? Savannahmann Aug 2013 #39

Congress doesn't agree with you, nor do the governments around the world who sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #109

Good one ProSense RFKHumphreyObama Aug 2013 #126

And again with the whole "let's jump on Greenwald" thing... TiberiusB Aug 2013 #170

Defensive, thinly-veiled chervilant Aug 2013 #20

Unbridled, unveiled derision leads me to believe rury Aug 2013 #66

Where is this chervilant Aug 2013 #82

I am responding to YOU rury Aug 2013 #89

Actually, I find it presumptuous chervilant Aug 2013 #149

I detected no unbridled, unveiled derision in your post. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #183

I appreciate your post. chervilant Aug 2013 #225

Oh, yes. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #235

It might be noted that king was never a President, and... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #79

It might be noted chervilant Aug 2013 #152

It might also be noted that any President's actions speak far more than anyone's speech. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #210

Listen to the speech nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #26

Pay attention - this was NOT the title to Greenwald's piece when it was 1st published during the kath Aug 2013 #83

What on earth are you rambling about? Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #131

Further, the videotape is all about George Bush. That's what makes it double-bullshit. MADem Aug 2013 #132

There is an 'overtone' to many of these types of arguments Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #134

Yep, there it is. nt MADem Aug 2013 #136

We already know that all of Obama's critics are racist. Including Doctor_J Aug 2013 #138

I never said that Obama's critics are racists. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #141

That wasn't pulled out of thin air. TiberiusB Aug 2013 #171

You should ease it on the personal attacks. morningfog Aug 2013 #189

OMFFSM Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #207

There's not much they have in common. tblue Aug 2013 #4

It is so good that he has you here to speak for him and explain to us arely staircase Aug 2013 #37

perhaps that is because G_j Aug 2013 #41

no arely staircase Aug 2013 #47

you don't have to be clairvoyant G_j Aug 2013 #54

not regarding current events post 1968 nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #56

you attempt to devalue King 's clearly stated G_j Aug 2013 #59

nah, you trying to speak for him is silly nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #114

So timely....hope all will take the little time to listen to the video. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #5

du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #6

K&R liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #7

Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #8

Instead of laughing about Greenwald why don't you read what MLK said? n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #177

He may well have, but substance is the very last thing conservatives want to talk about. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #223

a speech MUCH more important than 'I have a Dream.' KG Aug 2013 #10

It never loses its freshness n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #14

That is because it speaks to fundamental principles zeemike Aug 2013 #49

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #184

Curious. Why do you consider this speech "MUCH more important" than I have a Dream? Number23 Aug 2013 #151

Interested to see if you get a response CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #160

Not only that but "I have a Dream" held lots of white people complicit Number23 Aug 2013 #163

there is some strange attempt to try to make him JI7 Aug 2013 #169

Yes, we talk alot about this in the AA forum. The "white washing" of MLK and other civil rights Number23 Aug 2013 #173

because G_j Aug 2013 #168

Here's a thought... Number23 Aug 2013 #172

Greenwald = damn joke. His ODS shark jump happened long ago uponit7771 Aug 2013 #12

The piece is dated 21 January ProSense Aug 2013 #13

see post 83, above. kath Aug 2013 #86

Mike Malloy covered this topic, referencing the Greenwald article. alp227 Aug 2013 #17

Did I miss the memo? George II Aug 2013 #19

Every day with this poster...same as it ever was. nt babylonsister Aug 2013 #21

You'd better believe it! Scurrilous Aug 2013 #53

+1 nt MADem Aug 2013 #248

And not the first time they've tried to use MLK to do it too. Number23 Aug 2013 #91

Did you listen to, or read the speech? G_j Aug 2013 #107

There is probably little that anyone on this site can tell or show me about MLK Number23 Aug 2013 #110

that's good then G_j Aug 2013 #113

They're only here to defend the President from what they consider to be a slight. Maedhros Aug 2013 #212

Are there specific times when Dems are allowed to criticize the president's Republican policies? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #46

24/7 around here nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #48

Sure, when the President DOES have "Republican policies". Haven't seen any yet though! George II Aug 2013 #81

I heard that speech in 67. It sent chills through my body and tears to my eyes. It still does today. Autumn Aug 2013 #24

At least both Obama and MLK understood civil disobedience. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #27

Obama? Now now, man... Let's not be forgetful... Scootaloo Aug 2013 #28

You are, of course, correct. Maedhros Aug 2013 #52

exactly,. the president is the PR face of the corporate-military who actually control the policy. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #101

K&R For this timeless speech.... midnight Aug 2013 #29

Why would Obama not want me to remember that? arely staircase Aug 2013 #32

Just another way for people to show how much they hate the president BainsBane Aug 2013 #64

You know, blue neen Aug 2013 #80

this has absolutely nothing to do with race G_j Aug 2013 #121

That's weird. blue neen Aug 2013 #148

What? TiberiusB Aug 2013 #178

Invoking a Civil Rights icon against a black president has nothing to do with race? BainsBane Aug 2013 #242

have you ever heard of human beings? G_j Aug 2013 #243

Yes, I've heard of human beings. I've heard of back human beings too. BainsBane Aug 2013 #247

Which is why he ended the Iraq war, and is following through on ending the Afghanistan war? bhikkhu Aug 2013 #33

Catherina, that's why they killed him. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #40

4/4/67 speech. 4/4/68 assignation. Either (a) just a coincidence or (b) someone was sending AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #45

Why does Glenn Greenwald think he has the authority to say what is on President Obama's mind? blue neen Aug 2013 #42

"all in the name of division." babylonsister Aug 2013 #62

Pay attention - the title of the OP was not Greenwald's title. see post 83 above . kath Aug 2013 #90

Excuse me? blue neen Aug 2013 #99

We are beyond approaching spiritual death zeemike Aug 2013 #43

What would MLK think about Obama ending torture? arely staircase Aug 2013 #50

When did he do that? zeemike Aug 2013 #57

Not to mention the black site in Somalia Maedhros Aug 2013 #73

Thanks for that. zeemike Aug 2013 #85

MLK gave his anti-war speech on 4/4/67 and (apparently only by coincidence) was killed on 4/4/68. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #44

Just beautiful. What a great man. I had never heard that speech before. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #58

and a lot of people pontificating in this thread G_j Aug 2013 #123

Why do you find it necessary Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #180

No...I think you are assuming that other posters are as msanthrope Aug 2013 #192

Rude. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #244

Well, you assume incorrectly. I was replying to G_j, as you would note msanthrope Aug 2013 #245

if so PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #246

WTF...Please show me an instance of President Obama rury Aug 2013 #60

Greenwald/Snowden fans are in an alternate reality. That's why the Guardian mangled John Lewis' ProSense Aug 2013 #61

I'm sure you know this, but I'll post it (again) anyway. Maedhros Aug 2013 #75

It's astoundingly comical that you think you know rury Aug 2013 #97

This thread needs a dose of reality ProSense Aug 2013 #102

What a beautiful picture. blue neen Aug 2013 #105

. Turborama Aug 2013 #162

It's not mind-reading; it's drone-counting Divernan Aug 2013 #108

I judge the President by his actions. Maedhros Aug 2013 #156

did you copy this verbatim from freeperville post during the Bush years? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #143

+1....... madrchsod Aug 2013 #165

K&R!!!!! MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #77

k and r and kudos to those who maintain their souls in the face of unrelenting propaganda bbgrunt Aug 2013 #87

+10000000 woo me with science Aug 2013 #241

Posting ignorant, dated flamebait knowing that you won't be able to see 92% of the responses? Number23 Aug 2013 #93

Right? Life's so much nicer when you put CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #161

LOL! nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #186

If the point of this is the drone war, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #96

Really, pulling "I remember 9/11" out is such a very Rudy Giuliani thing to do... TiberiusB Aug 2013 #175

It's war on Al Qaeda, not terror. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #193

Who and What is Al Qaeda? Who decides if a 12 year old goatherder or KoKo Aug 2013 #200

There's only three countries where drones operate, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #204

What if their Countries are Corrupt...and don't mind getting Money from KoKo Aug 2013 #233

As I've said, it's not a war... TiberiusB Aug 2013 #239

I miss UNREC. zappaman Aug 2013 #106

111th Military Intelligence Group spied on MLK...NSA would do same I suppose if MLK were around now EVDebs Aug 2013 #116

That is a good guess G_j Aug 2013 #137

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #117

That's a pretty dispicable thread title. It's divisive flame bait and makes DU suck, IMO. MADem Aug 2013 #130

I'll listen to John Lewis about Martin Luther King. Not Snowden, Greenwald, Assange, pnwmom Aug 2013 #140

facepalm G_j Aug 2013 #142

facepalm. You DID miss it. John Lewis was misleadingly quoted as comparing Snowden pnwmom Aug 2013 #157

i guess the only thing some learned from that was to make sure they use JI7 Aug 2013 #174

non stop joelz Aug 2013 #144

Dr. King, Obama and war locks Aug 2013 #146

*please read this /\ G_j Aug 2013 #155

Does my heart good to know locks Aug 2013 #158

that was his compass G_j Aug 2013 #164

Thank you for this wonderful post Catherina Aug 2013 #188

Nicely put. Deny and Shred Aug 2013 #208

DURec for MLK, a great leader! bvar22 Aug 2013 #150

I have a dream - truedelphi Aug 2013 #216

I LOVE that dream. bvar22 Aug 2013 #217

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #153

Glenn Greenwald's opinion of Obama should giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #154

Re-read the link TiberiusB Aug 2013 #179

Why hasn't the title to the OP been corrected yet??? Sheepshank Aug 2013 #166

This post tells you everything you need to know alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #167

King as President? Who knows. He had a working relationship w/ Kennedy and Johnson bigtree Aug 2013 #191

Trashing thread. I wish white liberals would stop using civil rights Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #194

I don't think that MLK would want his words to be heard and heeded KoKo Aug 2013 #202

And I don't think Dr. King would have wanted to have his words Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #213

There's nothing in MLK's Speech that was "Twisted!" Millions of People KoKo Aug 2013 #231

I'm nowhere NEAR kidding. Stop exploiting this man's words and thoughts for your own purposes. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #234

I have listened to, and read that speech countless times G_j Aug 2013 #236

MLK would have been a great Libertarian. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #197

A ridiculous lead....from a ridiculous source... NeonDog Aug 2013 #203

the only problrm with this op timweidman Aug 2013 #206

What a joke. Greenwald presuming to care more about MLK than Obama does.n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #218

Deadbeat scuzzy lawyer/pornographer on his high and mighty lecturing others. n/t Scurrilous Aug 2013 #219

He wants us to remember. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #220

Greenwald, the same guy who defended a white supremacist Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #221

consider MLK and LBJ Enrique Aug 2013 #224

Catherina, you rock. wtmusic Aug 2013 #230

this speech heaven05 Sep 2013 #249