I'd rather restore constitutional law and give up my healthcare. Just thought I'd throw that out

[geckosfeet]

19. Democracy and the constitution are not necessarily the same thing - are they?

We can have our constitution within a capitalist republic system, which is essentially what we have. The veil of democracy, I have never really bought into it. It is clear that corporations and the rich run the show and have since the early days of the republic. So restoring is not really the question since imo, current conditions have been status quo since day 1.

Now as far as the domestic spying issues, I agree, these are egregious infringements on the constitution. How to stop it? Hmm. How do we even know what the extent of the spying is and how do we determine if it has been stopped? Do you think the government agencies are even going to come clean with congress? Much less the American public?

They are spooks. Shadows. Working in the dark and never to be revealed. I am not sure how we get a handle on them. I truly believe that congress cannot even reign them in at this point. De-funding them through congress will have no affect - there will always be super rich corpo interests to provide the money.

In any event, the constitution in rapidly becoming a relic with no modern relevance - not that I agree that it should be so, or think it is a good thing in any way. The constitution is being ignored, trampled and "interpreted" in ways that are so far fetched as to be laughable. There is no commitment to it anymore. Contemporary politicians care more about finding ways to circumvent the constitution with legal loophole jumping than adhering to it's core principles.

How do restore it? Better to ask how do regain control from the corporate megaliths that run our country for their own benefit.