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43. The War on Drugs turned out EXACTLY as wanted for quite a few people.

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:55 AM

Aug 2013

Do you REALLY think the racism inherent in the WoD is accidental? Do you REALLY think that the fact that the U.S. has the largest prison population in the world is an accident? I think the sooner citizens wake up and realize that these assholes DO NOT have our best interests in mind, the better.

Do you recall the Obama administration promising to take a laissez faire attitude toward pot in general? Do you recall the 5 years that followed where the DEA and DoJ proved just how full of shit he was? And now you're excited that Holder has once again promised what Obama promised before he became president? With expectations so low, how could one possibly ever be disappointed?

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Eric Holder May Release Sweeping Drug Sentencing Proposal [View all] Recursion Aug 2013 OP

Well I hope he makes some of his recommendations retroactive. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #1

Yeah, Obama has used that "prioritization" line before. I don't believe a word Holder says. forestpath Aug 2013 #2

"I dont believe a [fucking] word Holder says." It will be worse with Clinton. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #11

Hmmm... progressoid Aug 2013 #3

More than a life sentence becomes redundant. Where else can they go? immoderate Aug 2013 #4

Huh? Recursion Aug 2013 #5

Holder isnt a friend of the 99%. He is a corporate shill. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #12

Oh, right, you live in a world with "good" or "evil" people Recursion Aug 2013 #26

I think most of us live in that world, we just draw the line in different places, different ways Fumesucker Aug 2013 #39

If you disagree, that's not much of an argument. Holder's number one priority is to deny rhett o rick Aug 2013 #65

...So just give up neo-DU. Don't fight for anything. tridim Aug 2013 #45

Cutesy name calling is all you got bobduca Aug 2013 #61

I'm a Democrat. Always have been, always will. tridim Aug 2013 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Aug 2013 #63

Apparently you dont have anything to counter, so you attack me. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #66

"shortened sentences for minor drug offenses" burnodo Aug 2013 #6

That makes room for more minor drug offenses. That way there are more people with criminal drug RC Aug 2013 #60

Incredible Oilwellian Aug 2013 #7

Huh? Recursion Aug 2013 #8

Holder needs to declare the War on Drugs a massive failure, and order pot smokers released from Mr. David Aug 2013 #9

Previous sentence reductions have been hard to get through the prison system Recursion Aug 2013 #10

What do you mean hard to get through the prison system? morningfog Aug 2013 #40

I mean there have been previous sentencing reforms ... Recursion Aug 2013 #44

perhaps a little something more than a sternly worded letter is in order.. frylock Aug 2013 #67

Because nothing is cut and dry Recursion Aug 2013 #72

Not only pot smokers but all those arrested for possession. No matter what the drug. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #16

No. In rehab, maybe, but you don't simply turn drug addicts out on the street. randome Aug 2013 #32

There's nicotine and alcohol addicts walking around all over America Fumesucker Aug 2013 #34

I am a very high functioning alcoholic CountAllVotes Aug 2013 #76

I'll believe it when I see it davidn3600 Aug 2013 #13

Eric Holder is a damn fine AG. I'm glad he has seen the light on this particular subject. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #14

What? gvstn Aug 2013 #77

Anti-progressive stance there, millennialmax. Th1onein Aug 2013 #78

I support the Obama administration's decisions. I don't care what label I lose or gain for that. millennialmax Aug 2013 #79

Sure you do. Th1onein Aug 2013 #80

If drugs are going to continue to be illegal, possession should be a mere ticketable Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #15

thanks Recursion! Cha Aug 2013 #17

He can stop the futile war on drugs. Rex Aug 2013 #18

Bigger rocks, smaller sledgehammers, no movie nights and pre-paid food cards from Citibank. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #19

Holder is currently investigating BoA and JPM Chase for mortgage fraud, criminal activity. tridim Aug 2013 #47

get back to us when anything more than the standard slap on the wrist is administered frylock Aug 2013 #68

They have already been ordered to pay settlements to illegally foreclosed victims. tridim Aug 2013 #69

anybody going to prison and doing hard time for breaking the law? frylock Aug 2013 #71

do you know the current status on the Polis and Blumenauer bills? RainDog Aug 2013 #20

I believe it when they release the drug prisoners and restore voting rights Coyotl Aug 2013 #21

+1 B Calm Aug 2013 #25

Most states do restore voting rights to felons davidpdx Aug 2013 #58

"Unintended consequences"? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #22

The history of the War on Drugs is much more complicated than either side wants to admit Recursion Aug 2013 #28

We all know the drug laws were passed because "those people" were thought to be using them Fumesucker Aug 2013 #31

Then how do you explain that most other countries have similar prohibitions? randome Aug 2013 #33

The US has bullied the entire world into it Fumesucker Aug 2013 #35

The Single Convention had a lot of stakeholders and people pushing for it Recursion Aug 2013 #56

The War on Drugs turned out EXACTLY as wanted for quite a few people. EOTE Aug 2013 #43

The unintended consequences include an increase in the prevalence of drug use & an HiPointDem Aug 2013 #23

Cue the lobbyists from the Prison Industry... Wounded Bear Aug 2013 #24

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #27

This begs the question: chervilant Aug 2013 #29

That's not what "begs the question" means Recursion Aug 2013 #30

This is not good enough. morningfog Aug 2013 #42

"...to a certain contingent." chervilant Aug 2013 #50

Oh, and, speaking of distraction ploys: chervilant Aug 2013 #59

a "certain contingent" is far more interested in action.. frylock Aug 2013 #70

I doubt he will have much control over "minor" drug offenses Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #36

Oh boy. Time to use this post again: woo me with science Aug 2013 #37

It's a good point though. JVS Aug 2013 #38

Time to post this again ProSense Aug 2013 #46

Wow, that's brazenly dishonest even for you, woo me with science Aug 2013 #53

There you go calling someone "brazenly dishonest" when you clearly have no idea what you posted. ProSense Aug 2013 #54

Obama's Justice Department is appealing to keep people in prison woo me with science Aug 2013 #64

The funny thing is that ProSense Aug 2013 #57

Woo me with constant negativity... tridim Aug 2013 #49

Holder is part of the problem, he's not likely to fix it. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #41

And when he does fix it, you and the rest of Neo-DU will deny it ever happened. tridim Aug 2013 #48

Except he will never fix it, because he thinks the Drug War is a good thing. bemildred Aug 2013 #74

He is specifically addressing major problems with the drug war. tridim Aug 2013 #75

I hope and pray he has a workable doable plan Tippy Aug 2013 #51

Weed for everyone? It'll make Big Tobacco happy--they've got all the cigarette making infrastructure MADem Aug 2013 #52

Welcome back, Joe! randome Aug 2013 #55

Ha hahahaha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt MADem Aug 2013 #73