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nadinbrzezinski

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61. I actually think that using those two
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 01:06 AM
Aug 2013

is the reason why the cold war never went hot. I fear the young 'uns who think it could never be that bad.

The horse.... Socal31 Aug 2013 #1
heaven forfend that we should discuss possible alternatives in such a horrific event. niyad Aug 2013 #3
Rape of Nanking. Heaven forbid that we should discuss possible alternatives in Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #14
Possiable alternatives? Lancero Aug 2013 #28
best post of the annual Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #29
Some of us believe the examination of historical events is worthwhile. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #30
is it so hard to understand that the possible alternatives discussion reference should have happened niyad Aug 2013 #31
Apparently, to many, it is. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #41
Ah, Bullshit. cliffordu Aug 2013 #50
I diagree that neither target was a military target NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #55
Yes we did telclaven Aug 2013 #56
I have asked why the hypothetical "million casualties" invasion was necessary Bonobo Aug 2013 #2
The world had gone through WWI and now less than thirty years later was engulfed in another war Fumesucker Aug 2013 #9
OK, let's put ourselves in their shoes. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #18
WWII was a catclysmic national effort for the USA as well as other nations Fumesucker Aug 2013 #24
How about dropping the bomb to save innocent lives? hack89 Aug 2013 #48
Which innocent lives would have been lost? Jim Lane Aug 2013 #59
There were deaths ongoing up to the day Allied occupation troops arrived hack89 Aug 2013 #63
Read a goddamned book. cliffordu Aug 2013 #51
I've read lots of books. Bonobo Aug 2013 #57
Coming from you, that's hot praise. cliffordu Aug 2013 #58
It was obviously a message to the Soviets. joshcryer Aug 2013 #4
The timing doesn't work out for your argument. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #12
OK, under that scenario, I wholly agree. joshcryer Aug 2013 #15
Yes, I was talking about only a few weeks. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #19
Bucky claims Stalin was advancing his troops. joshcryer Aug 2013 #22
How was Russia going to overrun Japan? Swim? GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #67
There's a fabulous book of essays about this LearnedHand Aug 2013 #5
Personally I suspect Truman was actually afraid that Japan would surrender jimlup Aug 2013 #6
Poppycock. Bucky Aug 2013 #10
I agree with this post. hunter Aug 2013 #7
A few more incorrect statements from this thread Bucky Aug 2013 #11
Moral arguments are silly when discussing atrocities like this. hunter Aug 2013 #13
The list grows Bucky Aug 2013 #20
The war machine for the Japanese invasion was rolling yes... hunter Aug 2013 #32
"two bombs, bang bang, and the good guys win" Bucky Aug 2013 #39
"US intel showed Japan had more defenders ready on Kyushu" - ummm ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #42
good question. Bucky Aug 2013 #43
"essentially a weapon of terror" - yep - it sure was. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #45
Why the focus on Truman's decision. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #62
Since Hiroshima was the MHQ for the second army nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #54
The targeting documents are dry reading, like most military documents, but are available ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #60
I actually think that using those two nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #44
Not invaded? You don't know your history. Read up on Operaton Olympic. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #46
November 1st... hunter Aug 2013 #52
A list of incorrect statements in this thread so far Bucky Aug 2013 #8
Nice contradiction. What gives? joshcryer Aug 2013 #17
Those are two very different things in the real world Bucky Aug 2013 #21
How long do you think the Soviets had until they got a surrender? joshcryer Aug 2013 #23
I appreciate that you're not echoing the tired "save American lives" meme, but.... Jim Lane Aug 2013 #25
Let's be clear, i.e. an Asian "iron curtain" zipplewrath Aug 2013 #35
Thanks for responding. I've based my arguments on primary sources, hence contradictions. Bucky Aug 2013 #36
Little to NO sympathy for the use of the A-bomb. Hulk Aug 2013 #16
You're begging the question. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #26
All right, I'll try. sofa king Aug 2013 #27
We marched the marines across atomic bomb wastelands later... in Nevada. hunter Aug 2013 #33
Definitely not a consideration. sofa king Aug 2013 #49
I have often wondered what the ramifications of waiting for a Soviet invasion were Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #34
Well, why not wait a few weeks more than a few? brooklynite Aug 2013 #37
Sure, wait the additional time if you know that yet another powerful nation will declare war. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #38
Not even hindsight is 20/20 in this case. Bake Aug 2013 #47
Fact: you cant un-explode an A-bomb 68 year later markiv Aug 2013 #53
They had a chance to surrender and they rejected it -- The Potsdam Declaration DCBob Aug 2013 #64
The decision to drop the bomb melm00se Aug 2013 #65
Regardless - the indiscriminate slaughter and maiming of tens of thousands with one bomb is amoral ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #66
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