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In reply to the discussion: You Are, In Fact, Being Watched [View all]Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)97. you ask
Sure, yeah, terrorists suck and drug dealers suck, and I'm sure this massive thing that has been unleashed upon the American system of law, and the American people, is totally benign and awesome and only doing good things and stuff.
Let's pretend for a second that we even believe that.
What about tomorrow?
And next year?
And four years from now?
And ten years from now?
How much do you trust the future?
that reminds me of those that were against fluoride in the water,..."What if someday they decide we all need to calm down..then they will put tranquilizers in the water" This is a really paranoid post with a deep cynicism which is the MIRROR image of those that defend unlimited gun purchases with no background checks..."What if we need those weapons someday to fight the fascists?"
As I type this my son and his wife are on a plane and if collecting data on Americans prevents a terrorist attack then I say "Do it!"
As for your concerns about a Dick Cheney , I can only tell you that so far there has been no abuse of this spying...deal with abuse when we see it..
Let's pretend for a second that we even believe that.
What about tomorrow?
And next year?
And four years from now?
And ten years from now?
How much do you trust the future?
that reminds me of those that were against fluoride in the water,..."What if someday they decide we all need to calm down..then they will put tranquilizers in the water" This is a really paranoid post with a deep cynicism which is the MIRROR image of those that defend unlimited gun purchases with no background checks..."What if we need those weapons someday to fight the fascists?"
As I type this my son and his wife are on a plane and if collecting data on Americans prevents a terrorist attack then I say "Do it!"
As for your concerns about a Dick Cheney , I can only tell you that so far there has been no abuse of this spying...deal with abuse when we see it..
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But, but, there's absolutely no evidence of any spying on Americans. Read that right here on DU.
Scuba
Aug 2013
#3
of course. and anybody that thinks the security apparatus feels bound by laws, warrants, and
KG
Aug 2013
#10
The Reuters report did not address the question of whether or not data came from foreign sources.
randome
Aug 2013
#12
My friend Ron Wyden has some very strong credentials and he gets lied to in
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#74
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#35
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#39
Important to point out this change very likely due to Snowden's whistleblowing.
flpoljunkie
Aug 2013
#84
Kick. Plus the usual memo-whisperers show up, needle Will, and get their desired results.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#40
Fraud is illegal too, yet the President chose not to prosecute the banksters.
Waiting For Everyman
Aug 2013
#54
It's a-ok to persecute the little people, but the 1% can break laws at will.
Waiting For Everyman
Aug 2013
#58
9/11 was nothing more than an excuse to initiate their preconceived agenda.
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2013
#50
TransCanada were caught with a slideshow of peaceful activists, teaching cops they're terrorists.
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#51
Obama: NSA Surveillance Was Necessary To Make Sure Boston Bombings Weren't Part Of Bigger Plot
Ichingcarpenter
Aug 2013
#61
Necessary for them to help the DEA monitor and arrest medical marijuana users?
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2013
#63
I know. What's astounding is that anyone here is even trying to polish this turd.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2013
#68
Right, we need the NSA because we're too stupid to simply follow up a direct Russian tip off.
Waiting For Everyman
Aug 2013
#66