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Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
326. I actually agree with what you have to say.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

Your not being able to vote due your British accent is one thing. I understand that, especially working with a good number Brits here in D.C. who have been working on obtaining citizenship for years.

But there's another side to this: There are Hispanic Americans--born and raised here with no accent--who are routinely harassed and accused of being "illegals" when they are as American as American pie. They are denied their citizenship rights. That is racism no matter which way the pie is sliced. Many Hispanic Americans are stopped while driving or walking, prevented from entering certain places, and are racially profiled.

I guess this is to say that we have much more in common than we think.

The underlying problem in my mind is that we must start to listen to each other's stories and not be so quick to dismiss them.

I appreciate that you understand what I face on a daily basis. It doesn't matter that I sit here with two Masters Degrees and a doctorate from Ivy League institutions, and yet, I can still expect to be followed when I go into a shopping mall. Of course my parents and their parents and their parents before them had it much worse than I, but still...

We must be willing to listen to these stories and learn from them.

The Trayvon Martin case has affected me very deeply as I'm sure it has many people, particularly in the black community. What do we tell our children? How should we teach them to behave in public, not just when confronted by authorities, but by ANYONE who could potentially cause harm? What should they wear? How should they speak? Should they run? Walk? Scream? Remain calm? Call the police, lest the police believe them anyway?

These conversations that we have on a daily basis with our children are not had by white families (at least not to my knowledge). And so, in order to bring awareness, our white friends who say they truly care about racial progress and justice must at least be willing to hear those stories and not becoming defensive or dismissive of them. This is not about white guilt. It's about learning and understanding, or at least trying to.

On the other hand, I am seeing that the black community is making tremendous progress on the LGBT issue. And as a proud daughter of a gay father, I am thrilled that that progress is moving faster than I ever thought it would. And say what you will about Barack Obama, but I do think his coming around to support marriage equality has been a major catalyst for that, along with the support of many in the black clergy, political circles, power levers, advocacy and education.

We still have a long way to go on all of these issues, but I do think we have come such a long way.

Now the challenge is not allowing the Teabaggers and the racists who are fighting to the death to keep legalized bigotry intact to win. All they want to do is divide and conquer us, and we cannot allow that to happen!!!

I find that outrageously dumb and unproductive in moving along race relations in this country Kurska Aug 2013 #1
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #2
Well goodbye I guess n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #3
please heaven05 Aug 2013 #29
This isn't a pissing match FreeState Aug 2013 #33
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #43
Not all LGBT folks have their rights. I can marry here in NY but not in MS. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #44
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #48
So there are no black gays? FreeState Aug 2013 #69
+1 hrmjustin Aug 2013 #71
of heaven05 Aug 2013 #97
of Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #116
yep...and some may not be able to vote noiretextatique Aug 2013 #215
Yep. There's racism in the LGBT community, just as there Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #313
thank you. it disturbs me noiretextatique Aug 2013 #361
no heaven05 Aug 2013 #228
Actually, that's not historically correct theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #102
yeah heaven05 Aug 2013 #108
We're in this together theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #146
exactly heaven05 Aug 2013 #151
Sure. But it has been much easier for them to assimilate Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #314
Never said it wasn't theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #387
This ham-fisted message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Aug 2013 #90
Did you forget the sarcasm button? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Aug 2013 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Zorra Aug 2013 #405
Clueless. Females only got the vote in 1920. 18 year olds only in 1971. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #112
Halfway there quakerboy Aug 2013 #147
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #229
my recollection was, in the early days of this country there were property requirements steve2470 Aug 2013 #232
But again, they were not disenfranchised for being white, nor for being male. quakerboy Aug 2013 #240
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #222
you Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #230
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #239
Of all the issues we face today you focus on... sheshe2 Feb 2017 #409
Of all the issues we face today you reanimate a zombie thread from 2013. 3 and a 1/2 years ago. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #410
You're forgetting about us black females. We didn't get our Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #318
please DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #198
true heaven05 Aug 2013 #223
Neither do people of color who are also LGBT. Not even close! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #312
You might be ignorant of the history nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #98
ok heaven05 Aug 2013 #124
And we welcomed out neighbors with open arms nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #132
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #138
Yes, it's been about race nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #143
oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #149
Father... That said, remain vigilant is what we all need to do nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #158
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #160
The war on drugs has really done a number nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #162
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #166
In the end I see one in Mexico nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #169
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #171
"Some are" joeybee12 Aug 2013 #379
no heaven05 Aug 2013 #380
I don't think heaven05 is ignorant of this history at all. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #316
You know what is so funny about what you just posted nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #320
I actually agree with what you have to say. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #326
Not British accent nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #327
oops! I misread this. Thanks. And that was a great read... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #336
I did heaven05 Aug 2013 #383
One more thing... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #341
I see it a tad like the history of the holocaust nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #344
And they know their numbers are dwindling, so they Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #360
It is not just the republicans trying to create division nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #365
Interesting. I have to think more about this. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #370
Scott peters voted to get rid of Obamacare nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #371
bravo heaven05 Aug 2013 #381
Yeah. I see what you're saying here. Some valid points. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #394
No, the electorate never was nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #396
I don't think so, either, but I do think that some kind Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #397
In my bones I feel we are close nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #398
I work for the federal government and our union was able to Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #407
bravo heaven05 Aug 2013 #382
You welcome nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #390
I was raised in Atlanta and he was my congressman. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #392
Indeed nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #393
Thanks. I appreciate that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #395
Speaking of keeping "the other" under their thumbs Generic Other Aug 2013 #389
It is a place to start nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #391
Yeah my experience as a gay person is much less valuable than that of people of color Kurska Aug 2013 #104
Never heaven05 Aug 2013 #114
You just said "You got your LGBT rights and voice" Kurska Aug 2013 #117
okay heaven05 Aug 2013 #144
I appear to have misunderstood this post n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #145
I meant heaven05 Aug 2013 #156
Well that is at least better n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #168
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #173
I'd say the most important thing about fighting is fighting smart. Kurska Aug 2013 #174
this heaven05 Aug 2013 #177
Apology accepted. I also communicated in way that were, in retrospect, less than respectful Kurska Aug 2013 #179
Kurska, to you and heavan05, Sissyk Aug 2013 #213
Agreed. We should stop comparing injustices and listen Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #322
What an outrageous comment. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #110
whatever heaven05 Aug 2013 #113
You backed it up with this pathetic gem. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #122
I am pretty certain that everybody around her is upset at what's going on as far as voting rights el_bryanto Aug 2013 #119
Should be the question. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #127
NCTraveler, heaven05 had already resolved these disagreements Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #334
Look at the time stamp on my post. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #342
I meant "their" disagreements. Thanks anyway. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #358
You mean this CRACKER on SCOTUS and friends? Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #185
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #189
Hey thats a start, here is another quote, it may surprise you as to said it. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #199
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #221
I must admit they do look mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #225
I find it a refreshing history course. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #234
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #265
need a refresher course. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #331
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #335
your outrage at the word 'cracker', AlbertCat Aug 2013 #340
????? heaven05 Aug 2013 #348
I'm sorry I confused you with facts. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #355
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #357
you seem to be projecting, for real. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #374
cannot heaven05 Aug 2013 #378
Precisely. Minorities are always just sopped to let it go, move on and get over it. brewens Aug 2013 #303
One side is racist to the core malaise Aug 2013 #47
yeah heaven05 Aug 2013 #50
Thank you for this. Thank you very much. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #154
What "sides" are there? Besides the racist side and the (ostensibly) non-racist side? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #159
Because STFU is the WORST thing mentioned in the OP. valerief Aug 2013 #307
Unproductive? Debatable. Truthful? No contest. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #353
He was smart to specify "by people of colour" Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #4
do white people outside of the aryan brotherhood really think they are all the same loli phabay Aug 2013 #5
Shhh, white people are all the same and no white person has ever been treated unfairly by society Kurska Aug 2013 #7
it's heaven05 Aug 2013 #45
it's Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #115
no heaven05 Aug 2013 #190
no Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #197
Not true. The Republicans are trying to suppress the voting rights of poor people of all totodeinhere Aug 2013 #183
really? heaven05 Aug 2013 #187
I already said people of all races who are poor. Restricting voting totodeinhere Aug 2013 #191
I'm heaven05 Aug 2013 #224
No. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #411
with the relevant qualifier 'systematically" it's rather accurate. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #66
You must not know much about the history of Irish in America Kurska Aug 2013 #109
European Jews weren't considered to be white in the early part of the 20th century BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #135
Was that sign universal? I don't consider any Irish or Irish descentants to be victims. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #155
Irish people weren't considered "white" at the time. Neither were Italians, Jews, Greeks, etc. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #172
You have to make the biggest possible grouping you can think of Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #9
yet heaven05 Aug 2013 #60
you know something i forgot that discussing stuff with people with bigoted views loli phabay Aug 2013 #68
Here, here! nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #373
I'm sure the Aaryan Brotherhood would argue that all white people are not equal BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #136
yup point was that white people dont think of themselves as a monolith loli phabay Aug 2013 #139
Even Native Americans do not think of themselves as a monolith, or in need of a spokesman. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #150
i have always found that people identify themselves at a very local level loli phabay Aug 2013 #153
I'll bet you 99% of the folks on DU theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #15
+1 Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #19
oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #37
1775 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #49
oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #56
I was just 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #74
all heaven05 Aug 2013 #79
His post is part of the Problem 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #83
white heaven05 Aug 2013 #231
That is my Point 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #280
Bravo! heaven05 Aug 2013 #282
Proud to Serve 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #292
history epic fail loli phabay Aug 2013 #54
How do you figure that? BainsBane Oct 2013 #408
It must be comforting to live in a bubble completely devoid of historic knowledge Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #62
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #72
Oh really? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #77
Well heaven05 Aug 2013 #82
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #84
so its a sins of the father thing. you know i bet nobody on du had anything to do with slavery loli phabay Aug 2013 #78
Yes Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #86
I am married and I am no slave. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #243
spare heaven05 Aug 2013 #93
yes i am sure you have enough in abundance so i am done with you. loli phabay Aug 2013 #99
It's seems that your entire self worth... Sotf Aug 2013 #246
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #266
Referring to anyone specific? Sotf Aug 2013 #269
hmmmm heaven05 Aug 2013 #271
Seems to be leaning towards the latter... Sotf Aug 2013 #273
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #81
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #91
You might want to read on the freedom Riders nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #106
schwener chaney goodwin heaven05 Aug 2013 #111
That is a scared minority of people, who are your and my enemy, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #123
no heaven05 Aug 2013 #128
Actually it does equate in many ways. blackspade Aug 2013 #121
relieved heaven05 Aug 2013 #131
Very few Highlanders had much in the way of guns or power. blackspade Aug 2013 #175
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #184
Remember, too, the Disarming Act which some families do but apparently not by history teachers. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #210
Agreed. But some people seem to willfully conflate discrimination-for-other-reasons against people nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #192
+ 1,000,000 Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #268
"No Irish Need Apply" nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #157
Well, sheep gotta live somewhere REP Aug 2013 #211
Yup mac56 Aug 2013 #52
Arguably, the most asinine post I've ever seen on DU badtoworse Aug 2013 #6
+1 Isn't race baiting more a freerepublic thing? n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #8
I thought so.. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #130
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #64
Hatred is hatred. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #10
We cannot though. Can't you see? hfojvt Aug 2013 #36
Yeah...seems that way. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #39
? heaven05 Aug 2013 #279
It won't be possible to forgive and forget in this country until the unfairness no longer exists. sybylla Aug 2013 #96
That's your opinion. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #141
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2013 #245
bubble living heaven05 Aug 2013 #281
Okay... Wait Wut Aug 2013 #298
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #302
K&R! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #11
Two racist words do not cancel each other out and make it right. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #12
Are we arguing about crackers again? Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #14
Yeah, because those are the exact same things. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #16
As a NYer I have never heard the term here. I do however find it offensive. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #25
But that's your problem. Offence can't be given, only taken. nt mr blur Aug 2013 #41
OK. Well I am offended by the word. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #42
Can we really "allow" someone to be offended? marshall Aug 2013 #17
Things that make DU suck Aerows Aug 2013 #18
Hit a nerve, huh? Zoeisright Aug 2013 #242
jury results markiv Aug 2013 #20
Was somebody complaining? malthaussen Aug 2013 #21
Nobody's offended by "cracker." Iggo Aug 2013 #22
Well, that clears things up. Flatulo Aug 2013 #23
I am responsible only for my own actions. hamsterjill Aug 2013 #24
especially if your ancestors weren't a part of it either markiv Aug 2013 #26
"I will do my part while I live on this earth to make sure that I never further those." brush Aug 2013 #46
LOL... So one here is allowed (or not) to take part in certain behaviors based... yawnmaster Aug 2013 #27
not the first time that's been proposed on this site markiv Aug 2013 #30
Just another riff for the musical bar fight BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #28
hey heaven05 Aug 2013 #31
It's the white people who are whining here? XemaSab Aug 2013 #248
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #262
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #328
oh boy heaven05 Aug 2013 #330
Riddle me this: XemaSab Aug 2013 #367
of course not heaven05 Aug 2013 #368
I am offended by the word 'cracker' Wolf Frankula Aug 2013 #32
aww heaven05 Aug 2013 #263
I don't see the problem with this Xyzse Aug 2013 #34
done heaven05 Aug 2013 #264
LoL Xyzse Aug 2013 #272
the greatest leaders in race relations, have markiv Aug 2013 #35
there heaven05 Aug 2013 #38
On the other hand Warpy Aug 2013 #40
Blah. Facebook rants. (nt) Inkfreak Aug 2013 #51
+1 and my I add that the replies here are ummm interesting azurnoir Aug 2013 #53
So as a white person - how shitty should I feel, in your opinion? nt el_bryanto Aug 2013 #57
apparently you missed my point azurnoir Aug 2013 #59
The OP is about how White People should be fine being called Crackers, right? el_bryanto Aug 2013 #61
well your quite welcome to your outrage here azurnoir Aug 2013 #65
you know that everyone is in that boat, not every white person comes from one national line loli phabay Aug 2013 #63
That was my point most Whites I know identify as azurnoir Aug 2013 #67
you should add most people of african extraction who come from slaves loli phabay Aug 2013 #75
I already did that in the post you first replied to azurnoir Aug 2013 #76
sorry i missed that, though i still disagree with you respectively loli phabay Aug 2013 #80
Unless the country of their ancestors tried to exterminate them oberliner Aug 2013 #85
still and none the less they can identify which country that was ETA azurnoir Aug 2013 #87
No idea what you are saying oberliner Aug 2013 #214
and your was? you alluded to those immigrants that arrived later in the 20th century azurnoir Aug 2013 #216
Mine was not everyone identifies with the country they came from oberliner Aug 2013 #217
but we're not talking about direct 1rst generation immigrants azurnoir Aug 2013 #219
Or 2nd or 3rd oberliner Aug 2013 #220
oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #284
Was he drunk when he posted it? Egnever Aug 2013 #55
hopefully as he can sober up, stupid is for life loli phabay Aug 2013 #103
the heaven05 Aug 2013 #286
I am offended by LWolf Aug 2013 #58
I'm a white dude and my "people" were kidnapped and sold into slavery by people of color AngryAmish Aug 2013 #70
Sure, if you still suffer under society-side systematic race-based discrimination Orrex Aug 2013 #88
i liked this one that I saw yesterday Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #73
Testify brother! Generic Other Aug 2013 #89
I prefer Ritz myself. DRoseDARs Aug 2013 #94
Would it be too hard for people Union Scribe Aug 2013 #95
bingo for the win, seems its difficult for people with issues loli phabay Aug 2013 #101
Except for honkies. Orrex Aug 2013 #105
No, it would not be too hard for people to just not refer to anyone by racial pejoratives, unless... Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #120
AMEN! JAbuchan08 Aug 2013 #233
wow heaven05 Aug 2013 #289
So because someone was mistreated, I should like having epithets applied to me? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #107
To the author of this piece. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #118
"concentrate on caring for yourself" Enthusiast Aug 2013 #167
Who would be offended by cracker... ileus Aug 2013 #125
when you can prove that I did one of those things I will STFU. Until then YOU can STFU! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #126
When someone calls me a name, I find that if I simply ignore it, Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #129
Nice post, tuba-nose. Orrex Aug 2013 #133
lol some of my ancestors are Irish LittleBlue Aug 2013 #134
Lots of outrage from the privileged in here mwrguy Aug 2013 #137
lots of conflating and projecting privilege for righteous outrage... LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #161
No kidding! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #164
Seriously. Figured as much from the response count alone, sadly. Posteritatis Aug 2013 #186
I still love this bit... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #188
Even John Brown's descendants? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #140
see heaven05 Aug 2013 #142
K&R! Yay! STFU! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #148
Dear Fellow Native American Short Sighted Guy: There are chains worse than iron links... LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #152
If you want to take offense at the word "cracker" then be my guest. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #163
I take offense at ALL racial pejoratives, and at anyone's attempt to marginalize ANY racial LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #170
I'm not trying to "marginalize" anyone - except perhaps racist white conservatives - nor do I have nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #176
racist white conservatives, eh? smh. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #201
I did not say or imply that you were in that group. Considering you're on DU, I'd wager you aren't. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #203
You would be correct in THAT assumption for sure. Best to describe people who think LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #204
Okay, I see your point. And yes, there are instances where I would strategically avoid the "r-word" nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #205
White women pipi_k Aug 2013 #276
But discrimination against women has been part of American society from the beginning. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #352
oh boy heaven05 Aug 2013 #290
oh lord. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #372
dumb/stupid HiPointDem Aug 2013 #164
How true... HipChick Aug 2013 #178
I have native ancestors that traveled the Trail of Tears as well as black ancestors sunwyn Aug 2013 #180
I'm not pipi_k Aug 2013 #212
Turning the common people against sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #181
Great rant. I agree as I am an advocate of Native Americans. n/t RebelOne Aug 2013 #182
it's pronounced Cracka not cracker duh!!!!! Heather MC Aug 2013 #193
lol heaven05 Aug 2013 #291
You must have some very deep scars to be filled with so much hate. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #194
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #295
No, I have not forgot any of that. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #369
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #376
You are not alone, My Brother... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #195
When I see a title like that I just tune it out rl6214 Aug 2013 #196
Agreed, Flame bait trolls, post and run! Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #200
The OP since started another thread and has yet to post in this one. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #253
Well, I can see the pipi_k Aug 2013 #202
The OP had nothing to do with justifying the term "cracker." nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #207
The OP posted when they are afraid or unable to return to engage in discussion. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #208
But what's so terrible about the OP? What was posted that isn't factual? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #209
except the OP doesn't make that distinction JAbuchan08 Aug 2013 #235
I was mostly with you until I got to the phrase "predictable self-flagellators." nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #236
Persecution pipi_k Aug 2013 #275
I really don't think the guy's advocating pointlessly insulting people. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #354
Wow, how annoying Android3.14 Aug 2013 #206
you nailed that one. Chaco Dundee Aug 2013 #218
This should make you proud you mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #226
Finally, someone willing to admit that someone else can tell you you CAN'T be offended by something! hughee99 Aug 2013 #227
Always SO nice to be told what to like and dislike exlrrp Aug 2013 #237
What a rude asshole... Sotf Aug 2013 #238
The OP posted and won't discuss. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #252
The OP doesn't heaven05 Aug 2013 #300
Count your words in this thread. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #305
I agree with the sentiment but seriously... all people are of color. gtar100 Aug 2013 #241
What about this guy? Sotf Aug 2013 #255
I can see by the posts in this thread this is quite the grown up conversation. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #244
This is an ugly, poisinous OP Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #247
Who the fuck rec'd this turd? XemaSab Aug 2013 #249
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10023422027&info=1#recs Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #251
Native Americans and Irish: XemaSab Aug 2013 #250
I am not offeneded by the word cracker, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #254
Obama is divisive: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #256
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #257
fighting hate with Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #258
A bigot is a bigot shawn703 Aug 2013 #259
... In_The_Wind Aug 2013 #260
You STFU..... BrainDrain Aug 2013 #261
Not helpful treestar Aug 2013 #267
You either are a racist or you aren't. - lynne Aug 2013 #270
see heaven05 Aug 2013 #274
You don't get it, unfortunately... pipi_k Aug 2013 #278
No heaven05 Aug 2013 #311
I didn't say pipi_k Aug 2013 #325
you're heaven05 Aug 2013 #329
Again... pipi_k Aug 2013 #339
clueless heaven05 Aug 2013 #347
I'm 1awake Aug 2013 #277
The fact that his grievances are true and accurate doesn't make this approach less counterproductive lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #283
I know, right? it's like when Feminists are shrill- why can't they make their complaints sweetly? bettyellen Aug 2013 #288
Oh, but because we were never slaves (at least not technically), we should just shut it. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #308
Yes. Exactly. Just like this. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #350
I know it can be hard to be empathetic, but people get sick and tired of hearing bettyellen Aug 2013 #359
"The tone" was the dominant element of the OP's message. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #366
except- when you have already tried saying it nicely and people blow you off, bettyellen Aug 2013 #377
I think this adequately expresses the rage minorities feel taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #285
When someone ELSE gets to tell me what should and should not offend me... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #287
the '2 wrongs make a right' school of thought seems to have markiv Aug 2013 #293
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #294
Learn the difference between descendants and ancestors HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #296
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #304
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #321
you've heaven05 Aug 2013 #319
It's clear he knows the difference. But after 24 hours with your disruptive thread you have nothing Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #332
Disruptive?? Really??? HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #345
People with honest motives only provoke discussions if they are ready to participate. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #346
Since I posted this a little after 12:30 yesterday HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #349
Then post divisive threads when you are actually available to discuss them. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #356
You say divisive thread, I say spirited discussion HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #362
I don't heaven05 Aug 2013 #385
your heaven05 Aug 2013 #317
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #297
"why heaven05 Aug 2013 #323
Hmm, could a "lunch counter protest" be in order? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #333
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #337
Excellent anecdotes and examples. Thanks for the updates. True about the unequal responses. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #338
Actually heaven05 Aug 2013 #388
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #399
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #299
Well you do benefit from White Privilege every day el_bryanto Aug 2013 #315
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #324
Ok. But why is it important that white people suppress a natural reaction to an insult? RZM Aug 2013 #301
Racial epitaph justified... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #306
I think you mean epithet. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #351
The 1968 Beatles song 'Revolution' warned markiv Aug 2013 #309
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #310
All ethnic slurs suck AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #343
+1. That's why the OP's post is divisive and disruptive. But he or she can't see that. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #363
I find I don't fit undergroundpanther Aug 2013 #364
Basing your opinions of stuff that happened to your ancestors is stupid Taitertots Aug 2013 #375
still heaven05 Aug 2013 #386
Are you really going to try to conflate the Trayvon Martin case with slavery and the civil rights... Taitertots Aug 2013 #403
you heaven05 Aug 2013 #404
I wouldn't personally take offense if 'cracker' were directed at me. WatermelonRat Aug 2013 #384
400th reply Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #400
Oh and I suggest Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #401
As a "whiny white" person with Native American blood flvegan Aug 2013 #402
This rant "offends" me more than the word cracker ever has... penultimate Aug 2013 #406
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