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In reply to the discussion: Dear Whiny White People: Great rant from a Native American Facebook friend [View all]nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)207. The OP had nothing to do with justifying the term "cracker."
Just because it doesn't have the potency of the word "n**ger" - note the asterisks - doesn't mean it's perfectly fine to throw around. But that's not even the point - the point is that white people have never been persecuted as white people on a mass level, in this society. Discrimination for other reasons - nationality, religion, sexual orientation - against people who happen to be white, is not the same thing at all. Yet some people seem to almost intentionally conflate the two.
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Dear Whiny White People: Great rant from a Native American Facebook friend [View all]
HarveyDarkey
Aug 2013
OP
I find that outrageously dumb and unproductive in moving along race relations in this country
Kurska
Aug 2013
#1
Clueless. Females only got the vote in 1920. 18 year olds only in 1971.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#112
my recollection was, in the early days of this country there were property requirements
steve2470
Aug 2013
#232
But again, they were not disenfranchised for being white, nor for being male.
quakerboy
Aug 2013
#240
Of all the issues we face today you reanimate a zombie thread from 2013. 3 and a 1/2 years ago.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2017
#410
Yeah my experience as a gay person is much less valuable than that of people of color
Kurska
Aug 2013
#104
Apology accepted. I also communicated in way that were, in retrospect, less than respectful
Kurska
Aug 2013
#179
I am pretty certain that everybody around her is upset at what's going on as far as voting rights
el_bryanto
Aug 2013
#119
Hey thats a start, here is another quote, it may surprise you as to said it.
Rebellious Republican
Aug 2013
#199
Precisely. Minorities are always just sopped to let it go, move on and get over it.
brewens
Aug 2013
#303
What "sides" are there? Besides the racist side and the (ostensibly) non-racist side?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#159
do white people outside of the aryan brotherhood really think they are all the same
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#5
Shhh, white people are all the same and no white person has ever been treated unfairly by society
Kurska
Aug 2013
#7
Not true. The Republicans are trying to suppress the voting rights of poor people of all
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#183
European Jews weren't considered to be white in the early part of the 20th century
BuelahWitch
Aug 2013
#135
Was that sign universal? I don't consider any Irish or Irish descentants to be victims.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#155
Irish people weren't considered "white" at the time. Neither were Italians, Jews, Greeks, etc.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#172
you know something i forgot that discussing stuff with people with bigoted views
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#68
I'm sure the Aaryan Brotherhood would argue that all white people are not equal
BuelahWitch
Aug 2013
#136
Even Native Americans do not think of themselves as a monolith, or in need of a spokesman.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#150
It must be comforting to live in a bubble completely devoid of historic knowledge
Bunnahabhain
Aug 2013
#62
so its a sins of the father thing. you know i bet nobody on du had anything to do with slavery
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#78
Remember, too, the Disarming Act which some families do but apparently not by history teachers.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#210
Agreed. But some people seem to willfully conflate discrimination-for-other-reasons against people
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#192
It won't be possible to forgive and forget in this country until the unfairness no longer exists.
sybylla
Aug 2013
#96
"I will do my part while I live on this earth to make sure that I never further those."
brush
Aug 2013
#46
LOL... So one here is allowed (or not) to take part in certain behaviors based...
yawnmaster
Aug 2013
#27
The OP is about how White People should be fine being called Crackers, right?
el_bryanto
Aug 2013
#61
you know that everyone is in that boat, not every white person comes from one national line
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#63
and your was? you alluded to those immigrants that arrived later in the 20th century
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#216
I'm a white dude and my "people" were kidnapped and sold into slavery by people of color
AngryAmish
Aug 2013
#70
Sure, if you still suffer under society-side systematic race-based discrimination
Orrex
Aug 2013
#88
No, it would not be too hard for people to just not refer to anyone by racial pejoratives, unless...
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#120
So because someone was mistreated, I should like having epithets applied to me?
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2013
#107
when you can prove that I did one of those things I will STFU. Until then YOU can STFU!
GalaxyHunter
Aug 2013
#126
Dear Fellow Native American Short Sighted Guy: There are chains worse than iron links...
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#152
I take offense at ALL racial pejoratives, and at anyone's attempt to marginalize ANY racial
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#170
I'm not trying to "marginalize" anyone - except perhaps racist white conservatives - nor do I have
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#176
I did not say or imply that you were in that group. Considering you're on DU, I'd wager you aren't.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#203
You would be correct in THAT assumption for sure. Best to describe people who think
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#204
Okay, I see your point. And yes, there are instances where I would strategically avoid the "r-word"
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#205
But discrimination against women has been part of American society from the beginning.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#352
I have native ancestors that traveled the Trail of Tears as well as black ancestors
sunwyn
Aug 2013
#180
You must have some very deep scars to be filled with so much hate.
Rebellious Republican
Aug 2013
#194
The OP since started another thread and has yet to post in this one.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#253
The OP posted when they are afraid or unable to return to engage in discussion.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#208
But what's so terrible about the OP? What was posted that isn't factual?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#209
I was mostly with you until I got to the phrase "predictable self-flagellators."
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#236
I really don't think the guy's advocating pointlessly insulting people.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#354
Finally, someone willing to admit that someone else can tell you you CAN'T be offended by something!
hughee99
Aug 2013
#227
I can see by the posts in this thread this is quite the grown up conversation.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#244
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10023422027&info=1#recs
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#251
The fact that his grievances are true and accurate doesn't make this approach less counterproductive
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2013
#283
I know, right? it's like when Feminists are shrill- why can't they make their complaints sweetly?
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#288
Oh, but because we were never slaves (at least not technically), we should just shut it.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2013
#308
I know it can be hard to be empathetic, but people get sick and tired of hearing
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#359
except- when you have already tried saying it nicely and people blow you off,
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#377
When someone ELSE gets to tell me what should and should not offend me...
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2013
#287
It's clear he knows the difference. But after 24 hours with your disruptive thread you have nothing
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#332
People with honest motives only provoke discussions if they are ready to participate.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#346
Then post divisive threads when you are actually available to discuss them.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#356
Excellent anecdotes and examples. Thanks for the updates. True about the unequal responses. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#338
Ok. But why is it important that white people suppress a natural reaction to an insult?
RZM
Aug 2013
#301
+1. That's why the OP's post is divisive and disruptive. But he or she can't see that. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#363
Are you really going to try to conflate the Trayvon Martin case with slavery and the civil rights...
Taitertots
Aug 2013
#403