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No. DURHAM D Jul 2013 #1
Fuck NO. n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #2
You need to say "and HERE's fucking why". Ken Burch Jul 2013 #29
"Here's fucking why"--it's not up to US. We have ZERO say in who the leadership in Congress will be. MADem Jul 2013 #35
You're saying we have no right to even express an opinion about this? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #39
You can yammer on all you'd like, but if you have never been up in Congress and seen how the sausage MADem Jul 2013 #45
Your tone here is getting really unpleasant. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #46
Look who's talking! Now I have an "unpleasant tone!" MADem Jul 2013 #49
I didn't mean anything as name-calling. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #51
You continue to falsely characterize me. MADem Jul 2013 #53
BTW, the post I originally responded to was from a different poster. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #58
That is how discussion boards work--people hop in at a point that interests them. MADem Jul 2013 #62
You're talking down to everyone on this thread, and nobody here deserves that. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #98
No, I am not--and there YOU go--mischaracterizing me again. MADem Jul 2013 #102
What unworkable scenario have I proposed? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #108
You are proposing candidates with zero administrative, leadership, MADem Jul 2013 #110
Ken Burch you are on target. I question the motives of anyone who tries to shut you up for GoneFishin Jul 2013 #126
okay how's this elehhhhna Jul 2013 #89
Neither my tone nor message are "condescending." MADem Jul 2013 #92
I didn't say that we choose the legislative leaders. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #97
No one is stopping you from expressing that opinion. MADem Jul 2013 #104
You keep calling people stupid and uninformed Ken Burch Jul 2013 #107
I'd say you aren't treating me with respect. MADem Jul 2013 #131
It is like trying to tell a doctor how to operate treestar Jul 2013 #75
Precisely. Getting legislation through the process is not a MADem Jul 2013 #99
And progressives are just as capable of learning and doing all those things as "centrists" are. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #109
They are, and they do. But they don't start out as MADem Jul 2013 #112
Barbara Lee(who I just offered up as a possibility) Ken Burch Jul 2013 #115
Hoyer challenged her, you know--but Nancy had done more homework, AND MADem Jul 2013 #121
You have made the case of the OP with this: sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #95
No, I haven't--and we can meet here in ten years, and the system will still be the same. MADem Jul 2013 #96
We haven't gotten much passed that benefited the people. Sure, they got lots of things sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #105
We haven't gotten anything passed since "we" gave the House to MADem Jul 2013 #106
'We', that means Democrats, did not give Boehner the leadership in 2010. How many sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #111
No. "We" didn't GOTV. The youth vote just didn't show up. MADem Jul 2013 #118
I don't disagree with the use of insults etc to make a point, I have not done so ever, sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #120
Why is it so important to you to use terms like "yammering" anyway? n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #127
I invite your attention to your posts, directed at me, that preceded mine. MADem Jul 2013 #130
I don't see your remarks as "yammering", Ken. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #63
And that has absolutely NOTHING to do with how a Speaker or Leader is chosen. nt MADem Jul 2013 #86
You'll Probably Get Your Wish In 2015... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #3
There are almost 200 other democrats to choose from. 20score Jul 2013 #5
How people vote is largely irrelevant. Leaders are chosen for their skills. MADem Jul 2013 #36
Sounds like you're pretty much saying "shut up and know your place, peasants". Ken Burch Jul 2013 #40
Not at all--I'm saying Learn How Congress Works. MADem Jul 2013 #43
OK, we don't get a direct vote in this, granted. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #44
Look, you keep slamming me for stating facts, and then you have the nerve to MADem Jul 2013 #47
I wasn't "slamming" you at all. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #48
Yes, you were. MADem Jul 2013 #52
I called you angry and dismissive because you sounded that way. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #59
You took it that way. All I was doing was stating facts. MADem Jul 2013 #61
You were polite and well reasoned. Your opponent on the other hand was rude - as usual - 20score Jul 2013 #84
I am not an "opponent." I am a Democrat. MADem Jul 2013 #87
Your posts were well reasoned and gentle in tone. No slamming to be found anywhere. nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #64
Yes. Puglover Jul 2013 #79
No he led off with "angry" and "contemptuous" and "dismissive." nt MADem Jul 2013 #88
No, it's saying don't micromanage treestar Jul 2013 #78
Why do you equate the expression of an opinion with "micromanagement"? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #100
It is not based on political position on one issue. treestar Jul 2013 #76
Alan Grayson. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #6
Wouldn't that shake things up.... think Jul 2013 #8
If you're going to say, 'No!' At least say why. I'm open to good arguments. 20score Jul 2013 #4
Pelosi and Reid both need to go bigwillq Jul 2013 #7
Agreed. 20score Jul 2013 #9
They are both too softspoken to be leading in these times. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #23
Not just Pelosi but the entire Gang of Eight Catherina Jul 2013 #10
Great reply! Thanks! 20score Jul 2013 #11
I think you mean "Boehner should go". nt jazzimov Jul 2013 #12
Read the post. I know what i meant. 20score Jul 2013 #13
She was very effective in getting legislation through Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #24
You know perfectly well we all mean that too. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #41
Pelosi was told, and signed off on, torture and spying n2doc Jul 2013 #14
Forgot about the torture. (As for her defenders, they don't seem to have a case for keeping her.) 20score Jul 2013 #15
Of course she should go. She works for us and this means she sucks at suede1 Jul 2013 #16
I knew there would be people who objected. Was hoping that someone would have a 20score Jul 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author bluestate10 Jul 2013 #18
Few people react to 9 year old information that has a single issue tilt. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #19
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #20
Says the newbie gratuituously Hekate Jul 2013 #27
+ 1000----Damn you and your pesky facts eh? | nt MADem Jul 2013 #37
Leave it to a reactionary to be wrong and be rude about it. 20score Jul 2013 #67
Sorry 20score. I alerted on a response and the people judging it thought it was you. suede1 Jul 2013 #21
Well thanks for admitting it. Hopefully the jerk will see it. 20score Jul 2013 #68
I like her but I would not be upset if she retired after next years election. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #22
Revolt!! I'm all for it. Grayson it is then. Glad that's settled. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #25
Seriously... RudynJack Jul 2013 #33
The entire Democratic caucus regards him as a tough leader who can push people around? MADem Jul 2013 #38
thanks RudynJack Jul 2013 #42
Track record of bold progressive leadership. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #72
Yes he does. RudynJack Jul 2013 #80
That qualifies him more than enough . limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #83
No. Hekate Jul 2013 #26
Why not? What does she bring to the table that nobody else could offer? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #30
After "impeachment is off the table", this shouldn't have even been a question NuclearDem Jul 2013 #28
She said that BEFORE she became speaker RudynJack Jul 2013 #32
That's just dumb. Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #31
well, this is silly. It's up to the people of her district whether to re-elect her cali Jul 2013 #34
I'm even colder about it. All 535 need to go. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #50
I can pick 3 dozen who should stay. How sad is that? cali Jul 2013 #57
It proves that you're a nicer, less vindictive person than I am. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #113
Good thread. I agree in a lot of ways. napoleon_in_rags Jul 2013 #54
I fear the alternative would something far worse, like Steny Hoyer. David__77 Jul 2013 #55
He's next in line. If he wants it, he's got it. MADem Jul 2013 #56
And so: "Go Pelosi!" David__77 Jul 2013 #90
Her job, as Speaker, is not to represent one segment of the Party. MADem Jul 2013 #91
Yes, pro forma, her role is to represent all Democrats. David__77 Jul 2013 #94
Agreed - It Is Time For Her To Go cantbeserious Jul 2013 #60
be that as it may, it's up to the dem house caucus and voters in her district cali Jul 2013 #65
Agreed - That Does Not Change The Fact That She Is Supporting The Debasement Of The Constitution cantbeserious Jul 2013 #71
not going to happen. Not going to get a more progressive speaker, anyway bigtree Jul 2013 #66
I disagree. Laelth Jul 2013 #69
Picking a single issue you disagree with and throw her under the bus for that? DCBob Jul 2013 #70
It's not a single issue. It's torture, Chained CPI, spying, 20score Jul 2013 #73
All of those issues are complex and debatable. DCBob Jul 2013 #77
You're good with torture? With cutting SS? With Total Information Awareness? Damn! 20score Jul 2013 #82
TORTURE is complex? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #114
Of course not.. I was referring to the issues in the OP and Nancy Pelosi's view of them. DCBob Jul 2013 #123
Just wanted to clarify. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #124
It is up to the Democrats in the House treestar Jul 2013 #74
No. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #81
So she should go because of one statement and one vote Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #85
I would like to see Ms. Pelosi replaced with a fresher liberal house member from San Francisco. PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #93
The only thing that should change for Pelosi is making her SOTH again. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #101
She's mediocre LittleBlue Jul 2013 #103
Pelosi is probably the best Speaker in my lifetime. gulliver Jul 2013 #116
Pffffffffffft. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #117
I lost a lot of respect for her several years ago, over the issue of Bush's impeachment briankdinnj16 Jul 2013 #119
That's when she lost my support. LWolf Jul 2013 #122
ahhh do you realize she is the minority party in the house? madrchsod Jul 2013 #125
Pelosi and Reid have always been weak and ineffective leaders. steelmania75 Jul 2013 #128
Pelosi and Reid are pathetic excuses for leaders, but they are darlings of some lobby group(s). GoneFishin Jul 2013 #129
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