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In reply to the discussion: Proud Member Of "The Glenn Greenwald Left" Here. [View all]Autumn
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Lol, it's amazing how much some people know about this guy. I think the last time I
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#13
I know. I'm trying to figure out what all this is supposed to accomplish. Eg, am I supposed
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#28
Well, it's clearly not working. I hope no one is paying for this as it would be a huge waste of
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#44
They have the effect of making life-long democrats want to run screaming from the party
whatchamacallit
Jul 2013
#49
Since you mention it, I've wondered for a while now if that really is the goal, because you are
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#51
"There's going to be a big battle in the 2016 primaries." I wish. Problem is that
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#144
Because the Left is always right. And in an atmosphere of lies and deceptions, the left always
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#8
And that needs to change. The Left should never try to defend itself agaiinst the inane attacks
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#216
I agree, but it wasn't MY idea, I'm just running with the latest attack on the 'left'. Call it using
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#6
Sure, but to most intelligent minds that isn't even an issue. I learned to fight fire with fire
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#10
Greenwald is trying to get at the truth? By posting inaccurate information regarding data-mining
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#17
He's a traitor for releasing old information that we all already knew, and which also isn't true.
Marr
Jul 2013
#241
You want a list of Democrats FOR Civil Liberties? I can provide that too for you.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#19
Okay, my mistake. And the Greenwald Left is not my label. That came from the latest attack
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#159
I think from this comment, that you misunderstood the OP. I was pointing out who is ANTI- Left
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#242
In "Centrist," I hear, "No Changes in our Personal Power vs the Transnational Corporations"
HumansAndResources
Jul 2013
#239
Ah, so you practice guilt by association. That's TOTALLY a mark of Progressive Democrats.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#15
Excuse me? I'm pretty far left but I'm not an ideologue and I"m not prone to ratfucking.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#25
your support of right-wing policy would indicate that you are pretty far from far left
frylock
Jul 2013
#116
no, I am fairly close to being a socialist. But I understand politics means cutting deals.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#161
i am a socialist, and cutting deals and capitulation have two entirely different defintions..
frylock
Jul 2013
#164
Where have I EVER defended "untettered surveillance"? That is the whole point. I do not.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#170
Yes, it reminds of Rush frankly, whose constant attacks on 'lieberals' include that phrase
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#249
We understand that too, that politics is about cutting deals. And usually you want YOUR side
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#184
So you want to end poverty but just not in a hurry? And those in a hurry are ideologues?
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#208
So what do you think then, of OPs that trash the 'left' by compairing them to say, Alex Jones?
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#23
That OP compared the reactions/methods of conspiracy theorists on both sides of political spectrum.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#26
THAT OP was exactly what you described, an attempt at 'guilt by association'. This one was to point
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#31
And it's telling that when Libertarian trolls post here, their screeds get recommended by some.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#18
this is worth listening to if only for the first 5 min. to hear Jeremy Scahill's introduction of
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#27
I wouldn't say I stand with Greenwald but I stand with anyone who tries to ferret out corruption
byeya
Jul 2013
#29
Proud member of the anti-Iraq war, anti-Citizens United, anti Ron and Rand Paul left
ProSense
Jul 2013
#32
Btw, it was not I who called Glenn Greenwald 'left'. Did you go into that thread
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#104
I don't think they are nincampoops or gullible. Some imo, are just weak and don't want to lose
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#43
Good post, but I'm inclined to disagree regarding the age demographics of the 'gullible' over
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#77
Yes, I think maybe you got that right. The young certainly do seem to get it, maybe because
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#244
I could not agree more with your last sentence, having spent my early online years mostly on
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#228
I had responded to your original comment but it was deleted when I posted. So here it is again:
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#41
The intensity of emotion re Greenwald is coming from elsewhere. It isn't coming from the Left.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#178
Wow, thank you. That sounds more like a Liberal to me than many claiming the liberal label.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#251
It's from a page Glenn set up to counter the many misleading labels that he gets tagged with.
Maedhros
Jul 2013
#253
You are correct in that my understanding of Greenwald's position is not well informed.
grantcart
Jul 2013
#268
"All material published by Assange and Greenwald would have been published elsewhere by others"
delrem
Jul 2013
#223
In contrast to some persons with the big (D), he never voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#81
Exactly. Those who would condemn him but not the Senators are hypocrites.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#137
No they would only be hypocrites if the lifted them up as heroes as the OP does.
grantcart
Jul 2013
#141
You want to know what I think? Really? I value truth. The OP did not say or imply he is a "hero."
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#152
So you don't think that an OP that is titled: Proud Member Of "The Glenn Greenwald Left" Here
grantcart
Jul 2013
#275
Nope. And no matter how long you make your post, it doesn't make your assertion true.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#278
And no matter how short you make your post it doesn't make the your avoidance of
grantcart
Jul 2013
#279
Your issue was whether he was a "hero". Now you are changing the subject again.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#280
And yet you were a very serious supporter of Chuck 'Republicans Who Voted For War'
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#95
First, this OP was merely a response to an attack on the LEFT, using Greenwald as a tactic to do so.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#191
He hates US fed govt wealth distribution so much that he won't even pay taxes into it.
great white snark
Jul 2013
#98
Well, that wasn't MY phrase. I was merely responding to yet another assault on the 'left'.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#48
Greenwald opposes all cuts to SS, Medicare & Medicaid, supports public financing of elections
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#134
Thanks for your response. Re Republicans hating Government though, I'm not sure that is true.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#201
I love that word 'purist'. Lol! An old Third Way piece of propaganda against the Left that is pulled
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#94
1) They were not the same type of Republicans. 2) Lincoln did not appoint Confederates to his Admin.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#282
we must keep kicking and recommending this till it gets to the front page
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#56
Well, I stand with protecting our Civil Liberties as I always have. And lately the attacks on the
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#62
Couldn't agree more. I'm merely using their own choice of target to respond to the attacks on the
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#63
the politicians and commentators I have always respected most are likewise supportive
carolinayellowdog
Jul 2013
#70
Yes, I was going to make a list, which thankfully is very long, of all the Democrats who
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#101
real journalist real journalist - not the caviar correspondents of Washington and New York
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#75
Me too. The OP is merely a response to the latest attack on the Left right here on DU whereby
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#72
We've arrived at the fork in the road, the dissonance is deafening, this derivation of Democrats.
BornLooser
Jul 2013
#76
I agree with you. This was not my phrase, just responding to the latest attack on the Left wherein
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#82
I should have prefaced my opinion by stating that it was not directed at you, sabrina 1.
BornLooser
Jul 2013
#85
Thank you, I didn't take it personally, just wanted to explain the OP for those who didn't
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#89
He supported the ACLU's stand on Citizens United. Have you read their reasons for
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#86
Can you please post what GG said? I have read the ACLU's position on Citizen's United, but not
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#168
Never mind, thanks to Luminous Animal I see why you didn't want to enter into a discussion about
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#189
And?? Are you saying there is no right and no wrong? I asked you a question regarding
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#99
Dylan and I are on the same page on issues like this. So thanks for the reminder. But again,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#105
No, that is YOUR claim. I am responding to what was pure flamebait today, yet another attack
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#232
The thread that prompted this one was a dumbass opinion piece from The Daily Banter
emulatorloo
Jul 2013
#238
Yes, flamebait should sink, but that is why it is called 'flamebait', because good people feel
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#240
When it comes to people's Civil Rights, there are no shades of grey. But that's just my opinion.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#92
Who are 'called Libertarians'? I am a Democrat, just fyi, and always have been. As
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#100
Really? That's quite a charge re Greenwald. Do you have something to back it up?
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#221
You know, you just called me a liar. I would like an apology as I do not engage in
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#97
You and a whole lot of other Americans. You have to wonder why anyone would not be when
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#106
But..but..he's not a loyal Democrat who rubberstamps Republican policies the boss likes them.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#108
This conversation is founded in the psychological need to categorize oneself.
Billy Pilgrim
Jul 2013
#113
Greenwald: To apply "right-wing libertarian" label to someone with those views...is patently idiotic
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#142
Merely because YOU say that he supports the Paul's has never made it so.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#145
The ACLU agrees with him on this from a legal standpoint. Do you oppose the ACLU also?
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#157
You haven't been reading the attacks on the Left here if you think 'binaries are a thing of the past
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#198
I can fry big fish and take care of the little ones at the same time. I am an amazing multi-tasker.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#248
Hi tblue, adore you too. The OP is actually kind of silly, but then I was responding to some
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#166
I think people are, it's been going on for quite a while on Democratic blogs and people are not
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#252
Greenwald can be right or wrong. The attacks, however, are largely dishonest.
DirkGently
Jul 2013
#139
THIS truly deserves its own OP. Excellent, excellent comment! I have nothing to add, and if you know
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#182
Excellent post, thank you for posting in my thread, it deserves its own thread.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#171
Thanks, I'm not sure if that was meant as a compliment or an insult, but you would never, ever
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#199
Lol, I know, I decided to use their own labels to respond. And now I am a fan girl of GG or
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#203
I'll take GG's own assessment of where he stands on the political spectrum if you don't mind.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#234
Of course it has. Every one of the feeble attacks on GG and of course all the other writers and
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#256
Me too apparently, even tho I didn't know it because I have been the same liberal for forty years
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#259
Lol, I know what you mean. When I was little, I was told to always consider the source
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#260
Why? Under the AUMF of 9/18/2001 Awlaki was no more entitled to a trial than
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#309
Awlaki was a combatant....he was planning and directing terrorist attacks. Under
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#311
It is inappropriate to apply the same criteria used to define WWII "Combatants" with criminals.
Maedhros
Jul 2013
#312
It's not inappropriate...it's the law. Upheld repeatedly. However, for the sake of
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#314
That wasn't the question. Franken has lavished praise on Rand Paul and is his sponsor in the
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#289
But being anti-war, anti-surveillance-state, anti-crony-capitalism and anti-drug-war are good things
Maedhros
Jul 2013
#297
Can you point out anything that is incorrect in that statement?? Have you checked Paul's voting
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#307
And just because you DON'T agree with all the Democrats who have worked with and praised
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#317
Thank you, you saved me the trouble. I see the goal posts have moved, no apology for spreading
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#306
Lol, and the actual polls show that they are not. Two major polls this week show that now
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#283
Dick Cheney isn't a malevolent puppet-master? Since when? Did he have a 'change of heart', well
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#322