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Response to Javaman (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:53 AM

20. If you want to talk history ...

... then Ned Ludd was probably ended up a conglomerate figure much like Rebecca of the Rebecca Riots in Wales. Both the Luddites and the Rebeccas were justified in their protests except the Luddites failed whereas the Rebeccas, eventually, won.

Truth is complicated but it seems likely that the Luddites failed because they sought to extend the privilege of a minority (spinners, weavers and pile shearers) who were indeed loosing their livelihood but whose success would have maintained an artificially high price and low quality for cloth to the detriment of everyone else. On the other hand the Rebeccas were seeking fair taxation, rents, wages and tolls that effected all of the less privileged, hence their (delayed) success.

Similar failures to the Luddites in modern times were the Wapping printers strikes (for whom I felt no sympathy, but that is a story in itself) and the Miners Strike, who I did everything I could to assist.

Successes similar to the Rebeccas seem more difficult until you realise that UK female sufferage was just such a campaign as was the unfortunate but effective campaign of the Protestants to partition of Ireland.

To relate these digressions back to the OP you have to ask whether the people bemoaning drone technology are Neds or Rebeccas; and you know my opinion.

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