In the discussion thread: Here Come the Drone Wars in America -- The Public vs. Overzealous Police [View all]
Response to intaglio (Reply #8)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:53 PM
Pholus (3,238 posts)
12. Dial B for bombast.
Sadly, you've only proven that I hardly have a monopoly on juvenile behavior. Let's do a paragraph by paragraph breakdown of your latest squeezed out "wisdom:"
1 (subject and incomplete first sentence) Fact free namecalling
2) Yes, we've established you are long winded and like the sound of your own voice a lot too.
3) Yes, lets. No content here either.
4) Wait wut? Impossible you say? Am I going to believe you or my own lying eyes?
So, in this paragraph you established that you know little about recoil physics nor control systems in these drones. Possible enough that the Army did field testing overseas way back in 2007 and even though they didn't adopt it things have doubtlessly improved since then. Certainly the manufacturer still advertises the capability, though for "Military only." I'm sure our Homeland Security apparatus would just itching to pump some more taxpayer money in!
Furthermore you are apparently unimaginative enough to not realize that sometimes the drone IS the weapon delivery system. That's where the army spends their drone money. 30 minutes endurance with remote video and the capability of crashing in with a small hand-grenade/mortar sized round at any second if needed. Domestically, I can imagine this being a popular device if marketed to crisis response teams if the army wasn't buying them as fast as they can be made.
5) Huh. I'd figure the government argument is that any loss in effectiveness is balanced by the gain in safety to personnel. Furthermore, considering NIR capability I figure that an argument can be made for general effectiveness at night. Generically, knowing there is an armed aerial drone adds an intimidation factor as well and forces attention to be split at a time that might be critical. Liability? Grow up, we're in the 21st century. Heck when you write the laws you make it so you don't have liability or you're dumb. Chertoff managed it with the nudie scopes, I figure the drone guys have to be twice as smart considering they took care of those recoil issues you swore were impossible.
6) Nice argument for why there shouldn't be drones at all. Except that appears to be wrong too. The line of sight restriction is an FAA regulation along with altitude limits, not a technological limit. Multiple vendors advertise control systems that do not appear to be that limited in operation. Effort is even being spent to minimize the need for operators even in tight corners.
Not all sensors and processors were onboard for that test, but then again they are only using 0.5 kg quadrotors too.
7) Well, we are finally in agreement on something. Of course the PD in question has a name, it's just that you can't seem to figure out how to find it even with links from me and a search service right in front of you. Kinda like not finding your ass with both hands, so to speak.
8) Oh little pervs (and their apologists) want to look alright, I just maintain that they do not have the right to. Given how that sends them off on spittle flecked rants I can tell my position is correct.
9) That's a rich pile of drivel considering you didn't know about weaponized 2.2 meter drones being manufactured, kamikaze drones and and successful firing of shotguns from a 2 meter drone from almost a decade ago. Other than the superfluous Luddite discussion that was completely unneeded and a bunch of unsourced hype that seems wrong the moment it is tested you brought zero to the table here.
10) You're welcome for the schooling perfesser. Best you scurry off to bed now and rest well.
Game, set and match.
A government that engages in mass surveillance cannot claim to value the wellbeing or productivity of its citizens.
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