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leftyohiolib

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Blacks Who Stand Their Ground Often Imprisoned [View all] MrScorpio Jul 2013 OP

It is probably true that Blacks aren't successful with SYG. dkf Jul 2013 #1

Trayvon Martin shouldn't have had an unfair verdict against HIM. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #2

You don't know what the outcome would have been had it continued. dkf Jul 2013 #5

Apparently, in your world, only armed people should be allowed to defend themselves... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #7

That is wat I drew from the post. The question that looms and remain unanswered by the bluestate10 Jul 2013 #15

According to some here black people have no right to protect ourselves from harm. JRLeft Jul 2013 #36

Being followed, in and of itself, does not constitute a grave threat Flatulo Jul 2013 #65

He did. If he had grabbed the gun and shot Zimmerman... dkf Jul 2013 #26

So basically who wins is innocent? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #28

In a fight over life or death, and by law, yes. dkf Jul 2013 #30

Where was the life or death struggle here, Zimmerman got a bloody nose and scratches... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #37

Medieval. Might makes right. yardwork Jul 2013 #64

if! heaven05 Jul 2013 #46

Hogwash Major Nikon Jul 2013 #12

Trayvon had the right to use deadly force to protect HIMSELF. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #54

Sorry, Zman caused this, the right wing legislature's gun laws allowed it, a bigoted jury Hoyt Jul 2013 #3

Exactly etherealtruth Jul 2013 #19

That is ridiculous. All states have a right to self defense in their laws. dkf Jul 2013 #27

Yes, but they do not have the right to kill if there are other solutions. Mass Jul 2013 #31

What other solution was there? dkf Jul 2013 #32

you completely disgust me CatWoman Jul 2013 #40

my heaven05 Jul 2013 #47

+100 billh58 Jul 2013 #50

Bingo. That person disgusts most of DU most of the time. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #55

If you need to attack me personally, I guess that means you can't refute the assertion. dkf Jul 2013 #59

+1000 Mass Jul 2013 #60

Here's the problem metalbot Jul 2013 #58

yeah heaven05 Jul 2013 #82

Under the exact same conditions, except that Z was Black and Martin was White/Peruvian... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #4

No...this discussion would not be even taking place HipChick Jul 2013 #6

And why isn't THAT the inequity. dkf Jul 2013 #17

I would have made the same judgment given the evidence as presented. dkf Jul 2013 #13

Exclude yourself from the jury... You weren't there in the first place MrScorpio Jul 2013 #16

Do I know how racist people in Florida are? dkf Jul 2013 #21

Well, isn't that a tacit admission that Zimmerman's verdict was the result of a racist perspective? MrScorpio Jul 2013 #34

No. The way they apply it towards blacks is racist. dkf Jul 2013 #35

Look, you can't have it both ways MrScorpio Jul 2013 #38

The Zimmerman verdict was the correct one. dkf Jul 2013 #39

I'm saying that a Manslaughter conviction would have been appropriate regardless of the shooter MrScorpio Jul 2013 #42

No. What does empathy with Trayvon have to do with the... dkf Jul 2013 #51

If you don't understand how any of this matters... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #57

Honestly you make no sense to me whatsoever. dkf Jul 2013 #63

catwoman heaven05 Jul 2013 #70

??? heaven05 Jul 2013 #48

You distort the OP's message. The message was that the law that allowed Zimmerman to bluestate10 Jul 2013 #10

There wasn't anything illegal in what was done prior to the confrontation. dkf Jul 2013 #14

Again, you are mixed up. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #20

No. You can't beat up someone for following you. dkf Jul 2013 #22

Actually, under "Stand Your Ground', you CAN beat up someone for following you, if you ET Awful Jul 2013 #52

It doesn't matter what YOU believe, it's what a 'reasonable person' would have believed. Flatulo Jul 2013 #69

he heaven05 Jul 2013 #49

In the 10 years I've been here independentpiney Jul 2013 #25

interesting AND disgusting CatWoman Jul 2013 #41

You are correct. That person has NEVER taken the liberal view of a single kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #56

It ain't MIRT. Apparently the admins think it's all fine. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #61

Truthfully azurnoir Jul 2013 #66

I have to wonder if there's some large donations behind that star of theirs independentpiney Jul 2013 #68

maybe heaven05 Jul 2013 #43

Blacks who don't SYG also often imprisoned. Blacks who *anything* often imprisoned. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #8

There is an economic component. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #24

30% to 3% leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #9

the entire criminal justice system is deeply racist limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #11

Exactly...anyone who is in denial of that HipChick Jul 2013 #18

+1 gollygee Jul 2013 #23

The Florida billh58 Jul 2013 #67

The root is the system is racist and black folks are more likely to be under the hammer in any TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #29

In May Florida (surprise!) Marissa Alexander got 20 years for firing a warning shot into the ceiling B Stieg Jul 2013 #33

tell heaven05 Jul 2013 #45

I hear you. I'm starting to spot DU's "Cracker Trolls" too B Stieg Jul 2013 #71

the heaven05 Jul 2013 #44

Zimmermans life wasn't being threatened Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #53

See, this is where I get really confused. calimary Jul 2013 #62

The problem with SYG laws... Flatulo Jul 2013 #72

"Swallow your fucking pride and walk away." If only. calimary Jul 2013 #75

I heaven05 Jul 2013 #81

My personal take on it is what would have been legal for a policeman jimboss Jul 2013 #76

Welcome to DU, jimboss. calimary Jul 2013 #80

What's baffled me about this whole case from the get-go, is that Zimmerman set into Flatulo Jul 2013 #73

K and R BainsBane Jul 2013 #74

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We have a tradition here on DU of posting links for stories that we refer to in our posts MrScorpio Jul 2013 #78

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