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bluestate10

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44. Look like three jurors who lived closed lives were picked and they got matched up with
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jul 2013

three who had a more open view, but were weak. Remember, the first ballot was three to acquit, two to convict of manslaughter and one to convict of second degree murder. Somehow, the three that were for conviction came around to or were bullied into joining the three to acquit. If there is ever a book to come out of this, I want to see it come from the three that voted initially to convict, why they changed they minds and how they felt when they finally saw Trayvon Martin's parents get interviewed about their feelings and seeing how gracefully those parents are carrying themselves in the face of great pain for them. I don't care about ever hearing from the three that voted to acquit on the first ballot, in my mind, those people had their minds made up as soon as they sat in the jury box - they are an integral part of the larger racial problem we have in this country.

Mea Culpa... [View all] MrScorpio Jul 2013 OP
I found DUer Trumad's thread very eye-opening in regards to HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #1
The truly sad thing is Juror B37 would tell you she isn't racist at all and that race sinkingfeeling Jul 2013 #2
DeNile-it ain't just a river in Egypt. Many don't even admit to their bigotry-awareness=the 1st step hue Jul 2013 #14
I heaven05 Jul 2013 #20
Double consciousness is only *required* of the minority alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #3
succinct heaven05 Jul 2013 #22
Excellent point. In a way there is even a third consciousness for the minority in majority society. grantcart Jul 2013 #36
Bingo! You have hit the nail on its proverbial ChazII Jul 2013 #55
+++ Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #56
I simply cannot tell you how touching your comments are. grantcart Jul 2013 #58
Excellent Comment … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #43
great article by questlove grantcart Jul 2013 #57
Great post, alcibiades_mystery. ananda Jul 2013 #49
My neighbors are exactly like that..... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #4
Hi NRaleigh! It's the same with me esp. at work. Power to the NC People! Love Ya' (nice tomatoes!) hue Jul 2013 #15
A majority of Americans elected the first black President (twice), and yet... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #5
The key point is that a minority of Whites voted for President Obama. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #45
First of all, alsame Jul 2013 #6
You have a great deal in common with Rachel Jeantel. You're a human being... mountain grammy Jul 2013 #12
+1 LittleGirl Jul 2013 #19
succinct heaven05 Jul 2013 #24
It is very easy John2 Jul 2013 #37
+ at least a gazillion!!! chervilant Jul 2013 #54
I can give you a hug... alittlelark Jul 2013 #7
all I have to give is a hug handmade34 Jul 2013 #8
Jury instructions - Rules for deliberation pintobean Jul 2013 #9
And that is impossible. nolabear Jul 2013 #25
someone heaven05 Jul 2013 #27
Exactly. It's a fucked-up law. wtmusic Jul 2013 #30
I lay plenty of fault on that jury...... Little Star Jul 2013 #47
And juror #37 or whatever she is called, violated rule #7 which she admitted to when asked sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #38
Did she say that those feelings influenced the verdict? pintobean Jul 2013 #39
I listened to her interview and it was made clear by her that she 'understood' George, but admitted sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #40
they wept only during the prosecution's closing. so- no it did not influence them at all. bettyellen Jul 2013 #50
Not Surprised ProgressiveJarhead Jul 2013 #10
Um... RedSpartan Jul 2013 #11
LOL! lunatica Jul 2013 #60
Hugs to you, MrScorpio. There's nothing more to say. I'm sorry too. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #13
Thanks for expressing Your shock & dismay. We need awareness that this goes on every day!! n/t hue Jul 2013 #16
Never attribute to malice that which is easily explained by stupidity... Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #17
All I can say as a Canadian winter visitor to a little condo in South Florida, that Juror B37 nenagh Jul 2013 #18
First, the hug. Now, I think that stupid knock knock joke said a lot more than we thought. nolabear Jul 2013 #21
been heaven05 Jul 2013 #29
It seems that way, but my sons' generation is so different. Far from perfect but so different. nolabear Jul 2013 #31
I, too, was caught flat footed. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #23
I'm still amazed at how they see it as "self-defense", Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #59
Infuriating, isn't it? calimary Jul 2013 #26
n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28
2004? And she was 21? hfojvt Jul 2013 #32
One of the biggest mistakes we humans make. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #33
I'm going to stick by my John2 Jul 2013 #41
I'm right there with you. yardwork Jul 2013 #34
During the 90s and early 2000s conservative groups abelenkpe Jul 2013 #35
I take a different view on racism. I do think Affirmative Action has been used as a racial bluestate10 Jul 2013 #46
.... felix_numinous Jul 2013 #42
Look like three jurors who lived closed lives were picked and they got matched up with bluestate10 Jul 2013 #44
MrScorpio..... Little Star Jul 2013 #48
*hugs* from an old friend. I am with you on this one. It is disheartening. bettyellen Jul 2013 #51
Hug meanwhile, Mr. S, but I haven't viewed this interview... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #52
Sending you hugs MrScorpio. The only thing I can say is that many people lack empathy livetohike Jul 2013 #53
The sheer blindness of of these jurors astounds me too. Brigid Jul 2013 #61
even more amazing is the fact that out of a potential jury pool of maybe 150,000 people, the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #62
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