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It's true that many different kinds of Americans care about civil liberties. polichick Jul 2013 #1
And as evidenced, it's also true that many don't. SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #5
Just make sure you have a barf bag handy... polichick Jul 2013 #21
"They arrived on the scene with much fanfare and were often staples at tea party and Second.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #80
I know very little about Snowden. tazkcmo Jul 2013 #195
Who said you can't question? And yes, his motivation is of paramount importance to many of us. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #207
That's fair tazkcmo Jul 2013 #208
Well that's it then. Call your Reps in Congress. It's the only way to address it now. nt Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #209
Yes, all across the political spectrum. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #196
Strange bedfellows. MineralMan Jul 2013 #2
Not so "strange" ProSense Jul 2013 #3
Well, strange only in the sense that political goals and MineralMan Jul 2013 #9
Oh, FFS! I am officially creeped out now! freshwest Jul 2013 #216
The polls show overwhelming support for Snowden as a whistle blower sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #22
Don't know what polls you're looking at leftynyc Jul 2013 #81
That is not the latest poll. That is from July 5th, before the public fully understood sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #118
link please to the polls that show americans approve of snowden nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #143
Sure, see here: sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #154
well it sounds like he will have a good chance with a jury then nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #158
No, he won't. He would be kept in solitary, probably tortured (for his own good) like Manning sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #163
Thanks for the link leftynyc Jul 2013 #193
A link to the poll would have been interesting. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #152
Well, excuse me for taking more than a few minutes to get back to a request on the internet. Sorry sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #160
Why so testy? OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #189
Not strange. Just opposition to the black President under the cloak of supporting the Constitution. kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #133
You side with John Bolton on drone strikes, and Dick Cheney on domestic surveillance. Marr Jul 2013 #4
Who ProSense Jul 2013 #6
Nice collection of unrelated links. You still agree with John Bolton and Dick Cheney. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #12
And you agree with Storm Front...so there! ProSense Jul 2013 #13
This is one of the reasons no one takes you seriously anymore. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #17
Unlike you, I can speak for myself, and I don't take you seriously. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #23
+100 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #198
How silly. The fact is that Marr is correct, so it is not a good idea to try to smear someone sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #24
Yeah, like I'm "correct" that you agree with Storm Front. ProSense Jul 2013 #26
You started a preposterous game. Now that we all decided to play, you don't like the game. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #37
No, I posted an article and ProSense Jul 2013 #38
The OP is so defensive that the only way to deal with it was to have some fun with it. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #55
Really? What makes it "defensive" in your mind? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #61
Only if the boss does. ;) polichick Jul 2013 #35
Divide and conquer RobertEarl Jul 2013 #7
WTF? There are Oath Keeper supporters here? ProSense Jul 2013 #11
You object to being divisive? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #14
"You are quite the con artist." ProSense Jul 2013 #15
I would'nt worry, it's not working anymore. We have all had an awakening over the past sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #25
Yet here you are all over this thread. ProSense Jul 2013 #27
I thought you wanted to play a preposterous game. I love these games, always have. If you sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #39
You "thought" wrong, and screaming that I agree with Cheney is pure silliness. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #56
Actually Ed Snowden supporters reach across all the Parties. truedelphi Jul 2013 #186
:) polichick Jul 2013 #8
zing! Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #18
Founded by Ron Paul's little buddy...surprise, surprise! MADem Jul 2013 #10
Ron Paul mention for the thread fail. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #199
It's only not salient if ya don't read the link, I guess... nt MADem Jul 2013 #200
Oh, my god. There it is. Not very original, though... freshwest Jul 2013 #218
Oh well then, I guess I will change my opinion of Snowden now, thank you. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #16
Cool, but what do you make of the Oath Keepers' actions and mission? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #20
What do you make of Cheney's and Bush's and King's and Fleischer's and Ledeen's sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #29
They want to repeal the individual mandate. What you make of that? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #30
ACA was poorly conceived as we will all find out. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #46
So you agree with Cheney and Boehner? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #51
Is everything really black or white to you? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #67
Is screaming "you agree with Cheney" rational? ProSense Jul 2013 #111
Show me where I accused you of that. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #113
Did I say you did? ProSense Jul 2013 #121
Is screaming "Oath Keepers agree with Snowden" rational? NuclearDem Jul 2013 #202
Of course they do. His fan club is a wide array of kooks and... well, AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #19
. great white snark Jul 2013 #31
His non-fan club include Cheney, Bush, Fleischer, Limbaugh, Faux and 'we count the votes' Peter sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #32
I'm with you. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #42
Don't forget John "enemy combatant" Yoo. neverforget Jul 2013 #156
And bush feels the same way about him as you do (nt) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #28
+1 ^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #47
Pathetic. I've always thought that this is one of the worst arguments ever cali Jul 2013 #33
I really am loving the reation to ProSense Jul 2013 #36
I think everyone is enjoying this thread immensely. So see what you did, you united everyone sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #43
I'm sorry, pro dear, but would you like to link to my screaming Cheney? cali Jul 2013 #62
Ah, I see it's time for our daily Two Minutes Of Hate Matariki Jul 2013 #34
This is exactly what it is. I hope he/she is getting paid for this. reformist2 Jul 2013 #40
Nice deflection. I'm not, but why are you so defensive about this article? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #41
It's a distraction from the actual issue, that's for sure. Matariki Jul 2013 #45
Tell it to Mother Jones. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #50
ProSense Hearts Obama - no matter what policies he adopts. polichick Jul 2013 #44
+1 ^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #52
polichick voted for Obama - I blame you. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #53
Sure - and he said to "hold my feet to the fire"... polichick Jul 2013 #64
No ProSense Jul 2013 #85
Nice try, but it's clear to most posters here what it is y'all are doing... polichick Jul 2013 #89
One thing I've learned - it's not worth arguing with people with six-figure post counts. reformist2 Jul 2013 #48
That would make a GREAT signature line! Matariki Jul 2013 #54
You're smart, and I own everyone of my posts. ProSense Jul 2013 #58
I'm begging DU to charge fee for excessive bandwidth use. nt grasswire Jul 2013 #177
This place is hilarious. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #79
"You've only been here a week." AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #84
Alluding to someone's post count (whether high, low, whatever) was taboo on the old DU2. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #176
This is what we have to look forward to in 2014 and 2016 if the left doesn't come to its senses AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #49
FFS epic reframe fail. L0oniX Jul 2013 #59
I'm a heterosexual, 25-year-old caucasian male studying in a field that has a 4% unemployment rate. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #66
Your failure is in thinking that critisism of a Dem means a no vote for the Dem. L0oniX Jul 2013 #73
LMAO Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #77
The Revolution will NOT be about the "Left v. Right", or Dem v. Rep. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #57
Very true Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #82
I was wondering when the birthers would show up... Scurrilous Jul 2013 #60
Snowden OP #749 progressoid Jul 2013 #63
So it's not enough just to disagree with people.. SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #65
+1000 Everytime I think about voting I just think of the OP and go "why"? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #72
+1001 nt Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #86
So does the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Daniel Ellsberg. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #68
Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #71
You are citing one group's opinion. I'm saying that there are groups that share that opinion. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #74
Fine, but the OP is about the group mentioned. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #88
And, Snowden? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #168
You know, there's something in legal doctrine called "opening the door" NuclearDem Jul 2013 #184
Ahhh the Hourly update of the OPer... Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #69
Lmao!!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #103
K & arrg flamingdem Jul 2013 #70
Another Two Minute Hate thread and another trashed thread. Apophis Jul 2013 #75
So do liberals and progressives. Edward Snowden is an American hero, riding to warn us of danger quinnox Jul 2013 #76
You've posted this so many times that I'm starting to think you're just goofing on us... Scurrilous Jul 2013 #83
nope. I have grown fond of posting this in these type threads quinnox Jul 2013 #91
I, for one, hope you keep it up. Laelth Jul 2013 #136
I'm not Snowden defender, but how simillar to the "Obama palling around with terrorists" attempt hlthe2b Jul 2013 #78
What the hell are you talking about? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #87
Apparently some believe one can judge veracity and integrity by the most extreme of your supporters hlthe2b Jul 2013 #93
Oh please, ProSense Jul 2013 #95
Your intent in posting this is very clear to most on this thread, PRO.... Big fail. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #96
Bullshit. The article is what it is. Projecting "intent" is purely a cheap deflection tactic. ProSense Jul 2013 #99
It is all our problem when one of our supposed "own" uses these kind of tactics hlthe2b Jul 2013 #101
Again, bullshit on the lame deflection. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #102
Pro--these character assasination by association tactics are the ultimate deflection... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #105
Please, ProSense Jul 2013 #107
Ugly ugly failing strategy, ProSense... I understand you have a stake in defending administration hlthe2b Jul 2013 #108
Keep repeating that. The OP is a report. You don't have to like it. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #112
Not just me that sees this as very wrong. You are better than this, ProSense... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #114
Spare me the self-righteous act. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #116
Obviously, I've hit a nerve. GOOD! hlthe2b Jul 2013 #117
No, ProSense Jul 2013 #119
Hey, go for it... Klayman and the group in your OP are kooks... That's not the point.. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #122
No, that is the friggin point, not the one you made up. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #124
Right... I and four dozen others on the thread just "made up a point".... How, convenient when your hlthe2b Jul 2013 #132
Oh, and feel free to address the report, ProSense Jul 2013 #115
Even the most extremist RW groups in our society may express a real concern, even if their reasoning hlthe2b Jul 2013 #120
So ProSense Jul 2013 #123
I and about four dozens other here have made it very clear what this issue is. Feign confusion hlthe2b Jul 2013 #126
So now you're back to being self-righteous? Couldn't accept the point? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #129
Back at ya, ProSense... You don't win debates merely by being tedious... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #130
WTH? I'm wasn't trying to "win debates." ProSense Jul 2013 #137
Nor do you win debates by deflecting with straw men.... but you certainly are trying hlthe2b Jul 2013 #142
Of course not ProSense Jul 2013 #146
Accusing ME of something I have never ever posted, uttered, or thought-- NICE and very dishonest, PR hlthe2b Jul 2013 #149
You mean ProSense Jul 2013 #151
You lied about me in your last post... attributing comments to me I NEVER said/posted. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #153
No, I didn't. You (and others) are having trouble dealing with the content of the OP. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #155
YOU MOST certainly attributed a comment I never made to me... THAT is the definition of lying. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #157
No, I didn't, but this is just another deflective attempt on your part. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #161
THe direct evidence of your lie (post 146 ). Anyone here can verify I NEVER SAID THAT hlthe2b Jul 2013 #164
You was generic. Not everyone is doing all those things. You (and other) are having trouble ProSense Jul 2013 #165
"You" was addressed to "me"... Is this your attempt to apologize? hlthe2b Jul 2013 #166
It was generic, and your attempt to deflect is a fail. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #170
I deflect NOTHING... Your accusation/comment you attributed to me was a DEMONSTRABLE LIE... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #171
I don't give a shit if you want to believe that ProSense Jul 2013 #172
^^^^ Everything you need to know (perhaps already suspected) about this poster^^^ hlthe2b Jul 2013 #173
Everything I need to know about you: You can't accept facts, and love to deflect. ProSense Jul 2013 #175
You lied (demonstrably and irrefutably). No, you don't get to play the vicitm. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #178
Deflection, it's about you covering an embarrassing episode of false accusations. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #181
Covering YOUR embarrassment, perhaps... YOU SHOULD BE embarrassed & ashamed at your lie. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #182
You lied, PROSENSE (demonstrably and irrefutably). No, you don't get to play the vicitm. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #187
Uh oh. Sassy weekend ProSense has arrived. nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #128
Whether true or not. Puglover Jul 2013 #135
Gossipy crapola has arrived also. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #183
What you are telling everyone is that right and wrong do not figure in your opinions. RC Jul 2013 #159
Please stop projecting silliness. Don't want to read the OP report. Don't. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #162
Our government wholesale spying on us is not silliness. RC Jul 2013 #201
No, silliness is attempting to derail this thread via deflection. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #204
No, silliness is avoiding a simple question. RC Jul 2013 #214
Guilt by association, the Joe McCarthy technique. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #90
You mean like screaming "you agree with Cheney and Bolton"? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #97
Is this one of those "Hitler liked dogs.......and I like dogs too" moments? rdharma Jul 2013 #92
Guilty by association? Really? OK Sarah Palin ram2008 Jul 2013 #94
The best things about this thread ProSense Jul 2013 #106
Two wrongs don't make a right, guilt by association= fail ram2008 Jul 2013 #167
#threadfail LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #98
Thread is an apparent success. ProSense Jul 2013 #100
I'd say so. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #109
No! Look at how many responses the OP gets! A sure sign of success!! Demit Jul 2013 #110
" founded by a former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) staffer" ucrdem Jul 2013 #104
unlikely quarters? arely staircase Jul 2013 #125
I have a very conservative Christian family member. NCTraveler Jul 2013 #127
OP is timely and well-informed on a topic of great interest to many here. ucrdem Jul 2013 #131
Do you support the Oath Keepers? ProSense Jul 2013 #134
Hitler liked jam. You like jam. Matariki Jul 2013 #138
. ProSense Jul 2013 #139
ANOTHER Snowden thread burnodo Jul 2013 #140
No, ProSense Jul 2013 #141
I think it's very likely to be in the 400's burnodo Jul 2013 #144
Go count them and let me know. ProSense Jul 2013 #148
Drunk, actually burnodo Jul 2013 #150
aHA! A post you didn't respond to! burnodo Jul 2013 #213
Because the Borg do not qualify LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #215
My god I'm sick of this shit... whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #145
LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #147
At least they're not continuing his policies. rug Jul 2013 #169
Christ, Hitler built the predecessor to the Interstate Highway. I like the Interstate Highway. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #174
Well ProSense Jul 2013 #179
Wow, awesome rewording! Considering I didn't even vote in 2008 or 2012, it's even more awesome! NuclearDem Jul 2013 #188
Well, that's good to know ProSense Jul 2013 #190
So I didn't participate in the consistently-rigged system that would have had me holding my nose NuclearDem Jul 2013 #191
I think you need a better hobby, ProSense n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #180
Why? ProSense Jul 2013 #185
Well, 'cause you rather come off as an unhinged crusader, and are relying on guilt by association Scootaloo Jul 2013 #192
No, that's your take, but then again anyone who supports Snowden would make that claim. ProSense Jul 2013 #194
Yes, that is my take, even though I couldn't give a shit about Snowden Scootaloo Jul 2013 #197
Frankly ProSense Jul 2013 #203
I have no problem with Snowden support, either Scootaloo Jul 2013 #205
No, ProSense Jul 2013 #206
Just because you use a word doesn't mean it's applicable; in this case, "projecting" Scootaloo Jul 2013 #210
Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #211
Fair enough, I get what you were meaning now regarding projecting n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #212
Odd, usually shipwrecks sink Union Scribe Jul 2013 #217
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