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BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
119. She needed administrative support-
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:09 PM
Feb 2012

She needed a way to get the kid out of her classroom.
I would be certain she had no help in doing so.
She snapped, most people would have in the same situation.
The kid had probably been behaving this way from the beginning of the year.
As I recall, the incident occurred about 6 weeks into the school year.

She had probably been trying to deal with him disrupting her class since then.
He deliberately kept baiting her and I'll bet she showed
remarkable patience with him until that moment, which she has said
she regrets.

Bottom line, the school should have shipped him out to an alternative
school for behavioral problems long before the incident.

Having seen the system in action though- the student, despite
his effect on the learning environment of the other students in the class
has legal rights and the process of transferring him would be long and tedious so the
rights of ONE student, outweigh the rights of the other kids trying to learn.
It's ridiculous.

Meanwhile, the other kids suffer his obnoxious and selfish behavior.

BHN

Having read the article, I'm siding with the teacher on this one; LeftinOH Feb 2012 #1
If you can't deal with difficult kids without racism, don't teach school in Texas. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #7
We should be grateful Baby Bear Feb 2012 #28
And taking that out on kids is wrong. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #29
Yep. God knows why this is so difficult for some people to grasp. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2012 #59
hey efarrari arely staircase Feb 2012 #74
I said something similar in #27. EFerrari Feb 2012 #77
Main focus missed hermily Feb 2012 #159
I love this reply... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #113
I'm not sure this was racism Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #34
A solid assessment n/t MrBig Feb 2012 #43
It's probably the oldest nativist slam in this part of the country. EFerrari Feb 2012 #44
Mexican is not a race Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #57
Nativism is a form of racism, yes. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #65
Only if you completely redefine the word Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #110
Of course it was. I don't see your problem. EFerrari Feb 2012 #112
Nice job of splitting hairs Major Nikon Feb 2012 #132
uh, no mexican isnt a race but most mexicans are a mix of indigenous american and european, therefor arely staircase Feb 2012 #89
If the black person continually said "I'm Rwandan" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #109
Wrong. Identifying racism isn't racism. EFerrari Feb 2012 #117
There is a huge difference Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #122
Yes, there is from her other comments related in the article. EFerrari Feb 2012 #123
"go back to mexico" has for my entire lifetime been a racist statement. a quite common one at that arely staircase Feb 2012 #126
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #64
Teachers are human. Her comment was a response to his comment and not racist. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #85
You couldn't be more wrong about her comment EFerrari Feb 2012 #116
"Mexican" is not a race. boppers Feb 2012 #149
Yes, nativism is a form of racism. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #151
I posted this before scrolling down (and seeing your plea to stop laboring this point). boppers Feb 2012 #152
Agree hermily Feb 2012 #158
Yes!!!! hermily Feb 2012 #160
Welcome to DU, hermily. EFerrari Feb 2012 #161
she should have sent him directly ro the office to get the form arely staircase Feb 2012 #53
I don't think TX provides alternative teaching materials & forms in different languages. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #94
no, the forms in spanish were available in the office, the story says. nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #96
Oh, I missed that sentence. It says she tried to tell him to go get it from the office... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #98
im a school teacher and i get the feeling the kid was being a total jackass arely staircase Feb 2012 #102
I vote "jack ass" too. Seen it too many times myself. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #121
It's in the article tammywammy Feb 2012 #97
Me, too. If it's not a pattern and onetime frustration comment, give her a pass. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #84
She didn't have ANY forms or those just in English HockeyMom Feb 2012 #2
texas doesn't have bilingual education MrsBrady Feb 2012 #73
here is her rate my teacher page sammytko Feb 2012 #3
transferred to another school sammytko Feb 2012 #5
She's 63, so started her teaching career in her late 30s? sammytko Feb 2012 #6
If she started teaching the day she turned 20, she started in 1969. EFerrari Feb 2012 #13
She's been a teacher for 23 years.... sammytko Feb 2012 #15
Oh, yeah, you're right. EFerrari Feb 2012 #16
My grandmother started a teaching career in earnest at about 40 or so The Genealogist Feb 2012 #52
Any white American who says this should be exiled to England without trial. saras Feb 2012 #4
Why England? Or are you lumping Johnson20 Feb 2012 #20
For the irony challenged, that's the same as calling all Latinos "Mexicans". n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #30
Except MrBig Feb 2012 #31
Yeah, we have a real problem with people of French descent being told EFerrari Feb 2012 #39
I think you missed my point MrBig Feb 2012 #42
it isnt the same arely staircase Feb 2012 #75
I think it is the same, if you're talking about a kid who speaks only French... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #86
the history of anti mexican bigotry in texas and the dirth of comparable francophobia arely staircase Feb 2012 #95
I live in TX near where that school district is. There is no anti-Mexican bigotry here... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #99
then congratulations for living in the only town in texas with no anti mexican bigotry arely staircase Feb 2012 #101
You're off topic. This is about one remark by one person in response to one remark by Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #120
No, it's not the same because the American Southwest was never France. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #162
Regardless, being Irish I was offended by it. Johnson20 Feb 2012 #35
Yes, regardless of the context, that would make sense. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #37
That escapes me, please explain the context in which bigotry is OK Johnson20 Feb 2012 #51
my celtic dad despised being called anglo nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #92
my favorite thing i when people call me and other mexican americans spanish arely staircase Feb 2012 #103
I know, lol. EFerrari Feb 2012 #105
from the office arely staircase Feb 2012 #124
We board horses here and most of our boarders EFerrari Feb 2012 #128
that sounds like a lot of fun, really arely staircase Mar 2012 #167
What do you do with a kid that says this? Gman Feb 2012 #48
send him to the office to get the form arely staircase Feb 2012 #93
BS. The teacher did nothing wrong Gman Feb 2012 #8
I agree. You are right. n/t RebelOne Feb 2012 #9
No, he's not right. Using nativist slams on kids entrusted to your care is wrong. EFerrari Feb 2012 #26
I disagree MrBig Feb 2012 #32
+1 n/t tammywammy Feb 2012 #38
How does what the kid said mitigate her remark, exactly? EFerrari Feb 2012 #45
Not mitigate, but puts it in some context MrBig Feb 2012 #49
Well, in context of that particular nativism, it's akin to a teacher EFerrari Feb 2012 #69
I disagree MrBig Feb 2012 #104
You are comparing language used by an insider to language used by an outsider. EFerrari Feb 2012 #107
99 times out of 100 you are correct MrBig Feb 2012 #139
Also MrBig Feb 2012 #140
Shirley Bunn is not a Latina. EFerrari Feb 2012 #142
A picture? MrBig Feb 2012 #153
Actually, my coloring is a lot like hers and unless I self-identify EFerrari Feb 2012 #154
I have a friend who can relate... MrBig Feb 2012 #155
Wrong? Yes. Fireable offense? Give me a break. joeglow3 Feb 2012 #61
If you read my posts, you'll see I haven't advocated for that. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #68
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #60
Coincidently, I'm not. EFerrari Feb 2012 #67
That poster is no longer with us cyberswede Feb 2012 #70
"Mexico" is not the same thing as the "N" word. Totally different. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #88
No way. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #90
Oh, geeze. "Go back to Africa", "go back to Mexico". EFerrari Feb 2012 #163
By forcing the situation, you mean, the kid asked for something he needed? EFerrari Feb 2012 #11
There is no defending this kid so stop trying Gman Feb 2012 #47
Wait, so a kid asks for a form he is legally entitled to EFerrari Feb 2012 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Gman Feb 2012 #82
Why do you think the school district is legally require to provide alternate books & forms Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #91
The article specifically says he was disruptive. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #100
Gman said the boy is indefensible. That's over the top. EFerrari Feb 2012 #131
Yeah, I have taught Jr. High Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #134
Speaking of a big dose of reality EFerrari Feb 2012 #135
Not sure how you meant it but... Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #137
" If you want to call that "bad", fine. It's early adolescence" EFerrari Feb 2012 #138
Bad child. Difficult what to say about the teacher. sibelian Feb 2012 #10
Out of curiosity, how do you know this is a bad child? EFerrari Feb 2012 #12
Well, the article says as much... sibelian Feb 2012 #36
What bad behavior does the article describe? EFerrari Feb 2012 #40
I'm nonplussed. Do you believe that I have chosen sides against the child? sibelian Feb 2012 #55
A distinction without a difference. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #79
Seems more the opposite to me. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #156
You don't teach kids how to behave in your classroom EFerrari Feb 2012 #164
Granted, I'm saying the response (poor as it was) need not be fueled by bigotry TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #165
I don't know the lady. EFerrari Feb 2012 #166
That kid seems like trouble, I'm siding with the teacher on this one too. Obamacare Feb 2012 #14
She's referred to them as the Mexican Mafia. sammytko Feb 2012 #17
This isn't the first occurence of her making a negative comment about Hispanics. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #19
I'm not sure where your knowledge of this teacher is coming from, EFerrari. sibelian Feb 2012 #62
The OP. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #66
so that would be... sibelian Feb 2012 #76
How would that be excluding anything? EFerrari Feb 2012 #78
Bilingual paperwork is available in the AISD. w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #18
If this teacher has been in that district, or anywhere in Texas MineralMan Feb 2012 #21
As I said, I am bilingual.(English/Spanish) w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #22
I know you are, and that's muy excelente. MineralMan Feb 2012 #23
Understood. w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #24
Texas - It's a whole other country. MineralMan Feb 2012 #25
There are a lot of bi-lingual nativists out there, especially out here. EFerrari Feb 2012 #27
bien dicho nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #87
Comment from a freeper, WTF!! Obamacare Feb 2012 #33
I am siding with the teacher because she should not be faced with losing her job over one comment. Riley18 Feb 2012 #41
I would have been irritated, too. Quantess Feb 2012 #46
From a larger picture point of view MrBig Feb 2012 #50
She needed administrative support- BeHereNow Feb 2012 #119
Yes, but MrBig Feb 2012 #141
I'll R#6 (or whatever) and K this even without reading the o.p. nt UTUSN Feb 2012 #54
Why is that not allowed? Rex Feb 2012 #130
Looks like a Republican website. gulliver Feb 2012 #56
is this from a right wing news site? newspeak Feb 2012 #143
Aaaahh, it's good to know that every day I can wake up, log into DU and have my faith in..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #58
Dismissiveness is not an argument. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #80
Reading the headline, I agreed with firing her TheCruces Feb 2012 #63
Having dealt with kids like this one- I'm with the teacher. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #71
I'm sorry, BHN, this whole post is a slur on Mexican Americans EFerrari Feb 2012 #81
Note that he didn't say "Every Mexican-American kid had gang family members".... PavePusher Feb 2012 #83
I'm a she- and thank you for pointing that out BeHereNow Feb 2012 #108
To be fair, a lot of the gangs did not originate in Mexico.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #115
You are so correct- BeHereNow Feb 2012 #118
Your post generalized from a boisterous kid EFerrari Feb 2012 #133
You are myopic in your perceptions EF. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #144
No, I'm not myopic in the least. EFerrari Feb 2012 #145
What? BeHereNow Feb 2012 #146
I think we're done here. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #147
Wow- just wow. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #148
Perhaps I should clarify that my post is about a small segment of students. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #106
How? The kid said he was Mexican, Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #111
No worries. We live in a complicated culture out here EFerrari Feb 2012 #114
I think many people are actively denying nuance and context... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #125
It reminds me of "no talk" rules in dysfunctional families EFerrari Feb 2012 #127
He is the child, she is the adult. Rex Feb 2012 #129
I can't believe some posters are defending this!? ecstatic Feb 2012 #136
Amazing that so many of the replies here Vattel Feb 2012 #150
California Mexio? New Mexico Mexico? Texas Mexico? Arizona Texas? LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #157
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