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Blue_Tires

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89. I'm pretty sure "law" these days has nothing to do with
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jul 2013

"Can I make a jury believe reasonable doubt?"

(just to paraphrase a talking point from the Zimmerman cheerleading brigade)

And he will be convicted ceonupe Jul 2013 #1
I don't think so JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #2
Do Not Think He Will Walk erpowers Jul 2013 #12
And he had no injuries Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #17
and Trayvon was just walking down the sidewalk Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #20
Lack of Witnesses erpowers Jul 2013 #29
But the first hand witness JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #36
On the other hand,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2013 #39
I will JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #23
I lived in Jax for a time. Disgusting-ass place. I was in a band and got beat up because... BlueJazz Jul 2013 #30
now you can just shoot all four of them leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #61
LOL! BlueJazz Jul 2013 #67
Ha! JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #78
LOL!! Lucky Luciano Jul 2013 #97
yeah, open fire into a car full of teenagers because "I thought they had a gun!" anneboleyn Jul 2013 #109
I've lived south of Jax for nearly forty years. I'll agree. I don't like Jacksonville. That said, 1monster Jul 2013 #87
+1... I've seen this story play out... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #74
Glad you stopped by JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #76
On and one more piece of dirt JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #79
It's the new segregation taking over. zeemike Jul 2013 #85
You can make those claims or learn the law. Your choice. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #25
"a reasonable person" Autumn Colors Jul 2013 #34
I'm pretty sure "law" these days has nothing to do with Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #89
+1. nt Robb Jul 2013 #92
Good for you gopiscrap Jul 2013 #54
Statistically, no, he won't. Robb Jul 2013 #4
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #5
Static ts about crimes are misleading ceonupe Jul 2013 #8
"Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that violent crime is not a consequence of handgun ... hack89 Jul 2013 #27
And a tidbit that wont go over well with many here! nt 7962 Jul 2013 #95
What are the statistics for the general population? anomiep Jul 2013 #31
Conservatively, 70%. Robb Jul 2013 #38
Ok anomiep Jul 2013 #43
The article anomiep Jul 2013 #88
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #48
Don't hit the humpers with facts!-NT Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #65
I agree, very different facts. He said there was a gun, and not even a small one, 7962 Jul 2013 #13
Here is the CNN link ceonupe Jul 2013 #51
OK, I thought your original post meant that the original story 7962 Jul 2013 #96
I seriously doubt it. NOLALady Jul 2013 #33
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, but . . . Jack Rabbit Jul 2013 #37
I have no confidence that this will happen uponit7771 Jul 2013 #47
he saw what he thought was a shotgun, he had reasonable grounds to think his life was in danger. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #99
makes alot of diffrence ceonupe Jul 2013 #100
I forgot about that story - North Georgia, right? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #101
One claims he was with the shooter and did not do it ceonupe Jul 2013 #105
Okay - thanks Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #107
Her only crime ceonupe Jul 2013 #108
The big, glaring, massive difference though Number23 Jul 2013 #112
Very different case wercal Jul 2013 #3
good thing Herbert Mullin didn't operate in FL: he, too, genuinely thought the MisterP Jul 2013 #32
Do you think that 'genuine thought' is reasonable? anomiep Jul 2013 #45
This is false, the jury will have to deliberate on a ABSURD proffeing of "reasonable fear" uponit7771 Jul 2013 #50
Sorry you can't see the differences in this case wercal Jul 2013 #58
Unfortunately it's the same inept prosecutors office on this case as the Zimmerman case bigdarryl Jul 2013 #6
I think he gets convicted justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #7
Disagree JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #14
Ask yourself this justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #24
I would HAVE to believe him JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28
are you being sarcastic?? justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #44
No - I'm serious JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #53
"I don't know if they were trying to stash something in the car...." Robb Jul 2013 #18
Gun owners kill normal people. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #9
Why haven't we heard more about this situation? lynne Jul 2013 #10
Future defense attorney: He thought he saw a shotgun CanonRay Jul 2013 #11
Exactly JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #15
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #52
I've always said I wouldn't go either - even if matthews Jul 2013 #106
I'll bet money this guy gets time. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #16
I wonder how many went hunting this weekend BainsBane Jul 2013 #19
With the exception of no prior call to the police, its pretty close. He's guilty and after.... marble falls Jul 2013 #21
This Dunn asshole fled from the scene after he shot those kids up MrScorpio Jul 2013 #22
I agree MrScorpio JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #26
What the white jury will see: "the kids had a shotgun, and after geek tragedy Jul 2013 #60
The Phantom Shotgun Defense MrScorpio Jul 2013 #64
The Gungeoneers were already inventing ways to acquit the guy: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #69
Jeez, Louise. nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #70
Not surprised at all, and I'm guessing they'll be the first ones to celebrate... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #72
That's a must-read thread right there. Thanks for posting it. Robb Jul 2013 #73
Yep, with the group mod leading the way. His standard: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #75
They enjoy defending their own to the bitter end Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #91
Yep, if blacks are insufficiently respectful towards white, summary execution. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #93
Oh wow JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #81
even knowing that THE KIDS NEVER LEFT THE CAR, here's the Gungeoneer standard: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #82
"WHAT IF IT WAS JUSTIFIED?" Holy damn shit. Number23 Jul 2013 #111
Different case. Different facts. DirkGently Jul 2013 #35
Kicking for future. yourout Jul 2013 #40
I predict a not guilty verdict. Blackford Jul 2013 #41
The racists are celebrating! It's open season! This guy will walk.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #42
Why I wonder 1st degree murder Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #46
Because he willfully murdered another human being with malice nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #62
Understood. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #68
talked about this case since it happened angrychair Jul 2013 #49
He'll walk. White jurors will have an image of a car full of black teens, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #55
It sounds like the police did a better job investigating avebury Jul 2013 #56
Disgusting from the links comments page MillennialDem Jul 2013 #57
yeah, it's par for the course Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #94
I remember reading about this skeewee08 Jul 2013 #59
I believed Zim should have been found not guilty Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #63
he'll heaven05 Jul 2013 #66
This is why we need to teach our minority children to carry and AIM... LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #71
Too many witnesses HockeyMom Jul 2013 #77
that's legal isn't it? bowens43 Jul 2013 #80
The defense will claim that the kids disposed of the shotgun kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #83
Or, make the case about whether geek tragedy Jul 2013 #84
They can't, the cameras were on...BUT in a Man slaughter case the JURY can ONLY deliberate on what uponit7771 Jul 2013 #90
Dunn made a mistake Turbineguy Jul 2013 #86
Consider anomiep Jul 2013 #98
I assume nothing after that bullshit from Saturday... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #104
I didn't ask anyone to assume anything anomiep Jul 2013 #110
Oh dear, he 'thought' he saw a shotgun Rex Jul 2013 #102
Just when I thought the Freepers couldn't be more demonic. kalisto2010 Jul 2013 #103
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