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Response to BainsBane (Reply #53)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:51 AM

56. I know that case an many others

To give you a bit of background on me, I am a mixed race female, ex cop, and I teach self defense and concealed carry to women. Because I belive in the absolute right to defend yourself, and belive that giving people the ability to defend themselves is empowerment. So I very closely follow these cases.

The case you linked is sad, but ultimately it is not a SYG case because she left the scene, got a gun, and willingly returned. You can't argue that is a SYG case after the person has retreated to safety and they return. So comparing it to others is invalid. I feel for her as a woman, what she went through was horrible I am sure, but she acted outside what the law allows for- yet one other reason why I feel all women need a basic self defense course so they know what the law permits.

One reason I am so adamant about this is my own experience. I was walking to my car one evening when a man approached from the opposite direction. He asked "is this your car?", I replied yes, he pulled a knife and said "we are going for a ride".

This is when I was a cop, and I was carrying. But NC law is such that outside the jurisdiction were a cop works we are just civilians, no arrest powers or authority, with the one exception of being able to carry a gun in more places than a civilian with a CCW can.

He ran as soon as I displayed the gun, thankfully, and lacking any arrest authority I did not pursue I just called it in.

You know what? NC was a duty to retreat state then- and in this case still would be if it happened today. Technically I could have been arrested for pointing my weapon at him, and had I shot him prosecuted for that and been sued by him or his family. I won't deny that having the badge then got me preferential treatment where they never considered it, but because running away hoping I was faster than him was an option I could have landed in jail for defending myself.

Now that I don't have a badge, I shudder to think what troubles may have come my way had I not had one when that happened- just for defending myself.

These laws are about protecting anyone who is the victim of a violent crime by allowing them the most options for defending themselves, an not blaming the victim if they choose not to run in that split second.

Our life experiences form our outlook, I hope you understand a bit better where mine comes from now.

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