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Catherina

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127. The idea is that anything coming out of Snowden's mouth, and out of Russia
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:30 AM
Jul 2013

The idea is that anything coming out of Snowden's mouth, and out of Russia, is propaganda- something she restates with delicious irony several times from her own propaganda platform. Our cold war propaganda is going to be in full swing now. Several politicians have clearly stated it, calling Putin a KBG operative and tweeting to him Russian Spring (student uprising) was on it's way. It's several petty slurs rolled into one. Jay Carney repeated the exact same coordinated talking point. It's another blue-link special from the Ministry of Truth.


Variations of the first video are the twitter hit of the week



this is the longest single post in DU HISTORY. rsmith6621 Jul 2013 #1
K&R for the DU record length post Gman Jul 2013 #6
I'd have yo do some searching, but I believe Prosense has that record Dragonfli Jul 2013 #14
Hey now bobduca Jul 2013 #19
Well, there's no easy way to really know Gman Jul 2013 #38
No one beats the link meister. L0oniX Jul 2013 #146
and of so little worth... MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #51
It depends on whether or not you are interested in facts. I read all of it and was shocked at sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #171
Too long to read in entirety... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #2
It's really worth reading. n/t ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #7
My first impression - that the male reporter cut the female spokesperson off before she could karynnj Jul 2013 #62
It's worth it to read the disgraceful equivocations by a govt. spokesperson in their HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #63
i'm still trying to figure out what propagranda she's talking about. allin99 Jul 2013 #81
Her boss, Secretary of State Kerry, is famous (infamous?) for HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #83
Kerry NEVER said that - it was a media smear karynnj Jul 2013 #109
I beg your pardon.My wife and I watched Kerry on TV in Colorado Springs be asked the question HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #112
That is because the news person stated the question as karynnj Jul 2013 #115
The idea is that anything coming out of Snowden's mouth, and out of Russia Catherina Jul 2013 #127
How do you equivocate or anything if you can't get a word in edgewise? karynnj Jul 2013 #110
Here's how: HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #111
I disagree karynnj Jul 2013 #120
to Karyn[formerlyNJ-but now]VT, re: "limits to free speech" and the Fire/crowded theater meme... RememberTheNinth Aug 2013 #181
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #183
Read it whenevr you have timebut don't have any liguids near your keyboard when you do Catherina Jul 2013 #74
I saved it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #78
So true....it's fascinating. KoKo Jul 2013 #97
... questionseverything Jul 2013 #3
This OP is basically a giant copy-paste with some bold font here and there? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #4
Also, from the transcript these questioners...sound like complete a-holes Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #5
How so? blackspade Jul 2013 #16
Actually at least Matt is doing an awful job if the goal was to get the State Department karynnj Jul 2013 #66
Yes! How DARE they seek answers to legitimate questions! tkmorris Jul 2013 #18
Well, there chance of getting answers would rise if they let her answer karynnj Jul 2013 #70
No, they don't. They are members of the press, and if Snowden doesn't have the right to free JDPriestly Jul 2013 #22
Four words: "Tip of the iceberg" - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #65
Yes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #142
You mean...for doing their jobs? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #59
No - for not really allowing her to answer the questions karynnj Jul 2013 #72
The fact that I cover pressers regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #76
As I said, I have no problem with the questions karynnj Jul 2013 #84
Mark Twain would most certainly disagree whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #88
NEEDS MORE BLUE LINKS STAT bobduca Jul 2013 #20
All the interruptions make that painful to read bhikkhu Jul 2013 #8
Yeah, the questioning got REALLY stupid railsback Jul 2013 #13
Not stupid at all in my view. I thought it was for once a member of the press asking the right JDPriestly Jul 2013 #25
Wouldn't it then have been better to allow the answers as well? nt karynnj Jul 2013 #87
It's painfully clear she had no answers whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #89
Actually, had he let her answer the questions, that MIGHT be true karynnj Jul 2013 #91
I don't buy it whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #92
I seriously doubt they will fire her karynnj Jul 2013 #107
The answers were not really answers. They were evasive and irrelevant. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #140
The Obama administration doesn't want Snowden to have the right to free speech. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #24
We know they are targeted and that Senators and Congresscritters have been KoKo Jul 2013 #98
+1000 JDPriestly Jul 2013 #139
I couldn't read it either. It was like Chris Matthews asking the questions Whisp Jul 2013 #37
Agreed, questioner has an agenda treestar Jul 2013 #64
Came to the same basic conclusion after reading all that nonsense. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #90
Well, I read the whole thing. noamnety Jul 2013 #9
Definitely! KoKo Jul 2013 #99
Very... Special... idwiyo Jul 2013 #151
Where were these tenacious reporters when Bush** was magellan Jul 2013 #10
Took a long time, but it looks like what Snowden said and revealed woke them up to the simple JDPriestly Jul 2013 #26
I'm a cynic magellan Jul 2013 #29
What *is* with the press? It's embarrassing. (and beyond frustrating). allin99 Jul 2013 #31
We started a World Forum under Media, and we are going to try to catch some foreign views of JDPriestly Jul 2013 #48
Yes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #50
I have no problem with relentless questioning - but it is important to allow answers to the karynnj Jul 2013 #75
i would have like to hear her been able to answer a couple of those... allin99 Jul 2013 #82
He cut her off because she was avoiding answering his questions by speaking in broad generalities JDPriestly Jul 2013 #141
He started cutting her off with the first question karynnj Jul 2013 #144
There is no honest answer to his questions other than, yes, we are depriving Edward Snowden JDPriestly Jul 2013 #145
I disagree karynnj Jul 2013 #147
They already named a reporter as a co-conspirtor in espionage. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #148
The Rosen story was a while ago and not related karynnj Jul 2013 #149
The USA should really protect whistleblowers. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #150
Yes. Loud and clear too. Catherina Jul 2013 #44
that was bizarre. and what is this talking point supposed to mean.. allin99 Jul 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jul 2013 #10
so glad the press isn't accepting the spin at face value nashville_brook Jul 2013 #12
press ? kardonb Jul 2013 #21
You still live in the Cold War Era? KoKo Jul 2013 #100
Thanks for posting blackspade Jul 2013 #15
wow, that reporter is a bulldog! grasswire Jul 2013 #17
Agreed. Matthew Lee, AP n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #54
is he around much? also, when will the u.s. be asked about... allin99 Jul 2013 #56
They covered Morales plane when they came back from the 4th of July long weekend Catherina Jul 2013 #68
but that was earlier before.. allin99 Jul 2013 #80
wow. thanks for posting that. It's also awesome on video... allin99 Jul 2013 #23
Thanks. I had a heck of a time watching your link last night Catherina Jul 2013 #43
Thanks! Some DU'ers might find the interview VIDEO easier than the read KoKo Jul 2013 #101
THAT is how a journalist works. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #27
Will we ever see them again? I almost wonder... allin99 Jul 2013 #30
Ms. Psaki needs to repeat CYA101 and read "Weasal Words and Their Uses" again. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #28
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #32
Thank you, because it's unbelievable in any ordinary sense. delrem Jul 2013 #33
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #34
I read it and thanks for posting it. I say screw Kerry and the horse he rode in on. byeya Jul 2013 #35
Nice snark there Fumesucker Jul 2013 #116
Priceless. bemildred Jul 2013 #36
I'm glad you guys thought so too. Catherina Jul 2013 #42
That is the problem with up-is-down propaganda. bemildred Jul 2013 #47
It's totally cringeworthy. You almost want to help them because it's so bad n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #49
Weasel words. 99Forever Jul 2013 #39
Kind of looks like Bush 43 and his handlers deflecting questions warrant46 Jul 2013 #40
It's what they specialize in. 99Forever Jul 2013 #41
The sheep--- being made in an education system near you warrant46 Jul 2013 #114
It takes this full transcript to show IMPRESSIVE this reporter was Tom Rinaldo Jul 2013 #45
That's precisely why I didn't snip it. I tried but it took away the full effect Catherina Jul 2013 #53
My favorite part: ProSense Jul 2013 #46
K&R this is unreal. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #52
Check out the video, it's in post #43 allin99 Jul 2013 #57
The reactions here are telling nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #58
"Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech. Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #60
How soon we forget. The ironies are endless n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #69
I posted it earlier today Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #85
Your Post at the Link is a MUST SEE..... KoKo Jul 2013 #103
Just went and rec'd Catherina Jul 2013 #130
I'll bet the U.S. Government did threaten Amnesty Intl and HRW with HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #61
The Brits did when echelon was exposed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #67
It's pretty clear since HRW normally treats the US with deference and kid gloves Catherina Jul 2013 #73
They're not prepared for any of this type of questioning, are they? Stunning. K&R and bookmarked. Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #71
Our governments entire reaction to the Snowden Affair has been embarrassing Catherina Jul 2013 #77
embarrassing but perversely comforting to see the incompetence of the anti-Snowden PR carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #94
+1 n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #129
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #79
This is DEMOCRACY IN ACTION temmer Jul 2013 #86
Propaganda? That's the WH position? propaganda platform? that's insane xiamiam Jul 2013 #93
+1 KoKo Jul 2013 #105
That is unfathomably disturbing. woo me with science Jul 2013 #95
Does anyone know what she meant by "propoganda", what she was referring to? allin99 Jul 2013 #96
Here is Edward Snowden's statement from Moscow. Eric J in MN Jul 2013 #153
so she was referring to him speaking out against the u.s... allin99 Jul 2013 #154
Yes, usually "propaganda" refers to a government promoting itself. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2013 #155
K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #102
That is a whole lot of dissembling and stonewalling. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #104
Mr. Psaki made some very good points. arely staircase Jul 2013 #106
That was her rational for why he should not have free speech. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #118
May Mr. Snowden get to exercise his 6th Amendment rights very soon. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #119
Yeah I get that you desperately want him punished. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #121
Justice for Snowden! arely staircase Jul 2013 #122
The USA does not have an extradition treaty with Russia. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #123
All that to say that 'we believe in free speech except when we don't'. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #108
that "broadly" cracked me up. allin99 Jul 2013 #161
So the USA is okay with free speech, up until the point you piss them off Rex Jul 2013 #113
OWS is a great example of that. Another favorite are the free speech zones Catherina Jul 2013 #128
Ari Fleischer is turning green with envy n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #117
K & R Liberal_Dog Jul 2013 #124
Holy Fuck... Hydra Jul 2013 #125
That's it in a nutshell n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #126
Obama has already said as much with killing Americans Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #132
I totally agree since the Presidental power to assassinate is beyond the law Hydra Jul 2013 #135
Which is why so many of us freaked over Obama's position on this... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #138
Wow! Excellent reporting, great post, and horrifying content. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #131
Arrogance Savannahmann Jul 2013 #133
Just thinking about your question... Catherina Jul 2013 #134
And the fact that they DON'T know what he has Hydra Jul 2013 #136
I love having you on DU...your posts give me the snooper2 Jul 2013 #157
You need to catch up instead of ROFLing like a blue link wonder Catherina Jul 2013 #163
LOL, right, he was a low level IT twerp who got his hands on some documents snooper2 Jul 2013 #164
Of course you do. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #165
course I do what? snooper2 Jul 2013 #167
du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #137
Yikes. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #143
k+r ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #152
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #156
Too cool! I can't believe it's been tweeted 234 times and liked like that on FB. Thank you n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #158
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jul 2013 #159
Cool! Make some more room under the bus lol. I'm glad people are taking this seriously Catherina Jul 2013 #162
And tweeted it too lol Catherina Jul 2013 #160
Good, maybe Greenwald will read this- snooper2 Jul 2013 #168
Whoa. MelungeonWoman Jul 2013 #166
Check out the video... allin99 Jul 2013 #169
Link to VIDEO: http://video.state.gov/en/video/2542356307001 KoKo Jul 2013 #172
agree. allin99 Jul 2013 #173
Short answer is: Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #170
and then it's propaganda that must be silenced. lol allin99 Jul 2013 #175
Propaganda vs. propaganda. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #176
Keep this kicked. woo me with science Jul 2013 #174
One of the Most Important Posts I've Seen on DU in Years...AP Reporter Strikes Back! KoKo Jul 2013 #177
Thank you Koko! I didn't expect it to make this much of an impression Catherina Jul 2013 #178
Kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #179
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #180
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