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Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
14. People see the good guys in movies fire warning shots so they think its a good idea.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:16 AM
Jul 2013

It's reckless discharge of a firearm and it's illegal. If you are being attacked, fire at the attacker if you fear grave bodily harm. If you are not in fear for your life, don't pull the trigger. IIRC, she fired two shots. That's two fewer rounds available to her if she actually did need to stop the guy.

More recently, Case Nine took place in the Southeast. A young man was violently attacked in a driveway—as he tried to exit the scene, and when the side window of his car was smashed in by one of his multiple assailants, he came up with a .38 and fired, stopping the attacker, who died from the gunfire. As he backed into the street, he fired again into the air. He said later that he did so to keep them from harming him. That single bullet, intentionally fired upward, buried itself harmlessly in a building. A skilled defense lawyer won him an acquittal on the grounds of self-defense for the fatal shooting itself, but the jury found him guilty of the lesser included offense of recklessly firing that last shot, and he wound up serving hard time with a criminal conviction on the record for the rest of his life.

The bottom line is, there are good reasons why police are forbidden to fire warning shots, and why wise armed citizens don’t put the warning shot in their repertoire of defensive responses. Be able to explain why you didn’t fire a warning shot…and share with those who seek your advice why they shouldn’t fire one, either.


http://www.tactical-life.com/combat-handguns/warning-shot-misconceptions/

20 years in prison is insane, though. There needs to be some way for judges to show some leniency. She wasn't in trouble before and this was a threatening situation for sure.
Of Course left on green only Jul 2013 #1
fuck florida and its fake 'justice' HiPointDem Jul 2013 #3
My thought exactly HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #5
Her outcome was likely due more to her being poor than being Black. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #19
so justice is all about how much you're able to purchase? burnodo Jul 2013 #30
But if she was white to begin with, I believe she would have never needed to hire.... left on green only Jul 2013 #58
and Zimmerman goes free! liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #2
what the treestar Jul 2013 #4
Its a Racist Misogynist Mash Up! bobduca Jul 2013 #6
It has more to do with class than race. The woman was likely represented by a public defender. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #18
Didn't she go out to her truck, get the gun, and come back inside? X_Digger Jul 2013 #7
Yes, she did Nevernose Jul 2013 #10
And her only recourse was to shoot him? burnodo Jul 2013 #31
If a reasonable person in her position would fear imminent grievous bodily harm or death, then yes. X_Digger Jul 2013 #35
so.... she should have just sat around and submitted to being beaten burnodo Jul 2013 #38
Discharging a firearm in a house is using deadly force, yes. X_Digger Jul 2013 #39
Left....her own house? burnodo Jul 2013 #42
Err.. she wasn't living there at the time. You really don't know the details of this case, do you? X_Digger Jul 2013 #44
She got 20 years and she did even kill anybody! Did you hear about this, GZ jurors? TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #8
A humane governor would commute that sentence (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #9
Yeah, we have the felonious Skeletor for governor, though kdmorris Jul 2013 #27
People do not understand what self-defense means in domestic violence cases GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #11
she wasn't in danger when she fired the Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #13
Zimmerman left the safety of his SUV and pursued Martin. I don't get your point, bluestate10 Jul 2013 #17
zimm never was in a safe Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #21
What safe area was Trayvon in??? burnodo Jul 2013 #43
guilty of shooting a gun? burnodo Jul 2013 #33
If you make these kinds of claims, you need to provide links to credible sources GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #48
Here you go. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #50
Thank you. This definitely puts a different picture on the series of events. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #53
I agree, but I think the sentence was unduly harsh. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #54
I wonder if it was because there were children involved GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #56
Possibly. Someone mentioned mandatory minimums. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #57
She was in his house, the back door was open. DirkGently Jul 2013 #45
What! Marissa couldn't shoot warning shots in her own house? Cha Jul 2013 #12
Warning shots are a bad idea. Thanks Hollywood! X_Digger Jul 2013 #36
It "demonstrates" fair warning that you have a gun. Cha Jul 2013 #49
No, saying "I have a gun" and showing a holstered weapon does that. X_Digger Jul 2013 #55
She had moved out. She shot at her husband and her kids. DirkGently Jul 2013 #47
People see the good guys in movies fire warning shots so they think its a good idea. Skeeter Barnes Jul 2013 #14
Laws should be the other way around. The law, as you stated it, promotes killing bluestate10 Jul 2013 #16
On the contrary, it promotes shooting only in self defense to protect innocent lives. Skeeter Barnes Jul 2013 #24
You missed that she appears to be poor. If Zimmerman couldn't get money bluestate10 Jul 2013 #15
Great point npk Jul 2013 #32
This case is jacked up all around Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #20
If she'd been carrying the gun, but fired warning shots, she'd be in the same place. n/t X_Digger Jul 2013 #37
She should've killed him to make sure she wouldn't go to jail. dom TransitJohn Jul 2013 #22
She left the house, got a gun and went back in to confront her husband hack89 Jul 2013 #23
The shots were not warning shots, ManiacJoe Jul 2013 #25
Guess who prosecuted her? Angela Corey. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #26
I watched angela corey smiling like she had won last night, now i understand DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #28
If you have political aspirations in Florida you must appeal to the Saltine- msanthrope Jul 2013 #29
She fired through a wall, toward her children. DirkGently Jul 2013 #34
Marissa Alexander was not living in the house at the time of the incident, her husband was Lurks Often Jul 2013 #40
Angela Corey doesn't give much credence to self-defense claims. aikoaiko Jul 2013 #41
Florida's legal system doesn't seem rational or consistent.....or safe. Sheepshank Jul 2013 #46
This LINK may clarify some things... Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #51
Thanks for that. n/t X_Digger Jul 2013 #59
Floriduh is FUCKED up. City Lights Jul 2013 #52
The 20 year sentence was the product of a mandatory sentencing law onenote Jul 2013 #60
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