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In the discussion thread: Some progressives are too confident in women not supporting anti-birth control candidates [View all]

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Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:08 PM

Green_Lantern (2,423 posts)

3. I'm not saying it'll work on all middle class women...

They aren't framing it for socially progressive women who post on DU. I don't assume all women judge issues as how it affects all women as a whole.

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Some progressives are too confident in women not supporting anti-birth control candidates [View all]	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	OP
Sounds like someone is off base here. I'm a retired middle class woman with no cause to	shraby	Feb 2012	#1
I was an Independent for 30 years	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#2
see that's the thing	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#5
That's because they have the good insurance the Repubs want to deny people	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#39
we can't just hope they'll have empathy	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#42
They have the cover; they know it's a good thing	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#45
so let's just assume that and only go after liberals?	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#51
Now you seem to be advocating reacting to public opinion	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#55
No...I'm saying we need to tell voters even conservatives why progressive benefit everyone	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#57
I'm not saying it'll work on all middle class women...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#3
When 98% of all women use them?	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#20
I agree it's do as I do not as I say...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#22
I am 70 and I am angry. They have no right to make these moral judgements against women. I am	jwirr	Feb 2012	#16
We don't need anger we need to be proactive	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#19
So why can't we do both?	jwirr	Feb 2012	#21
we can be motivated by anger	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#23
Absolutely.	jwirr	Feb 2012	#24
Another 70 year old who will be right there with you.	kiranon	Feb 2012	#30
Your post makes me smile. So true. If men think about it they would be the ones fighting for birth	jwirr	Feb 2012	#32
We don't need all women to do it.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#4
the polls are a progressive weakness	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#8
Obama designed the rules saying all insurance must cover birth control	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#40
Obama is the one who balked and put in the religion exemption...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#43
He changed the rules so that all women will be covered	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#46
he could have just done that in the first place	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#52
Huh? What exemption are you saying he put in?	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#54
there was an exemption for religious institutions in the original requirement	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#60
That's churches themselves, not church-run hospitals, universities and so on	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#62
an ideal world?	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#69
Are you sure that includes the religions themselves?	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#80
Birth Control is a losing issue for the GOP.	mick063	Feb 2012	#6
I like Rachel but she can be naive	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#11
I don't know - there are some signs already of a backlash against the Republicans on this....	yellowcanine	Feb 2012	#7
You underestimate the impact of this GOP theater.	AtomicKitten	Feb 2012	#9
only if the issues are debated at face value	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#13
The GOP is tone deaf on women's issues and I agree they use subterfuge	AtomicKitten	Feb 2012	#15
Santorum is a gift to us	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#18
It effects men too -- are you too confident in men too?	justiceischeap	Feb 2012	#10
depends on the man	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#17
Until they end up paying child support	justiceischeap	Feb 2012	#34
You're not confident enough that women will stand up for their own well-being against the GOP.	FarLeftFist	Feb 2012	#12
no I'm not	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#14
Lots of things "could" happen and nobody can predict the future	Proud Liberal Dem	Feb 2012	#44
I agree the GOP going too far right may just hurt them..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#53
2004 was much different	Proud Liberal Dem	Feb 2012	#58
Male Vasectomies SHOULD be covered too	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#25
insurance would oppose covering that without copay	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#26
My husband's in '84 was outpaitent and had a co-pay	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#27
My wife really pestered me to become a "sport model"	mick063	Feb 2012	#28
Guys, your woman will really appreciate it, during MENOPAUSE	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#29
Do you have a link where republicans are framing on the issue of "free" birth control?	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#31
No, I was saying they are framing it as a handout...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#49
And what I am trying to tell you is that women hear what you have just said and think	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#50
oh, definitely on Santorum I agree	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#56
and if he is the repub. nominee for president, what will other republicans do?	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#68
If Santorum gets nominated I bet he'll focus on the economy and be more general on	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#70
do you honestly believe that the Dems will let him run only on the economy?	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#81
I think you missed the point	DearAbby	Feb 2012	#33
This is the critical point! I don't know if the OP is male or female but	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#35
+++ to both this and the post to which is being replied.	salin	Feb 2012	#36
and that's why the right is not overtly saying to ban birth control..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#41
Oh, but they ARE overtly saying to ban birth control...	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#47
as I said before Santorum is a different story...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#64
I agree. They couldn't go over the cliff any more dramatically IMO...	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#67
insult or not...the frame of slutty women has worked for the right..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#37
You keep on saying how effective their strategy is...I am beginning to wonder about	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#48
I'm not glad when they are effective..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#61
It seems to me that the RW is only effective when they can marginalize issues to their	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#65
Maybe but I never thought I'd hear a letter about contraception read at church either	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#72
and I'll bet you weren't the only Catholic who thought that!	CTyankee	Feb 2012	#74
I said it was a free commercial for Obama...	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#76
Really?	Rex	Feb 2012	#59
it worked enough to reelect Bush..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#63
No, the 'lockdown' in Ohio worked to get Bush relected	Rex	Feb 2012	#66
Thank you. n/t	myrna minx	Feb 2012	#38
If Santorum is the candidate they can be confident	marlakay	Feb 2012	#71
a President cannot ban birth control without Congress	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#73
What evidence, relative to this particular context,	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#75
what do you mean? trend towards what?	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#77
Historical voting trends for women in the past 35 years are contrary to this statement...	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#78
I never said additional female voters..	Green_Lantern	Feb 2012	#79
If they don't gain voters then what is the concern?	TheKentuckian	Feb 2012	#82

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