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ceonupe

(597 posts)
85. The goal was to go light and strategic and setup a US/Western style system of gov. business and bank
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jul 2013

The goal was to go light and strategic and setup a US/Western style system of gov. business and banks while ensuring US/Western control of the oil trade by taking out threats to our $$$ intrests. Had Iraq worked better and Afgan not completly failed we would have already taken over Iran with the Saudi's as the front men.

The biggest bully in the schoolyard doesn't have much trouble getting the other kids on his side. Incitatus Jul 2013 #1
The trouble with being a bully, though... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #13
They have no right SamKnause Jul 2013 #2
...and they're not... brooklynite Jul 2013 #28
Financial terrorism? treestar Jul 2013 #47
The problem with making promises you can't keep... Bonobo Jul 2013 #3
Belive that if you want ceonupe Jul 2013 #35
Destruction and holding and controlling a territory are different animals. Bonobo Jul 2013 #40
Dead people are defeated people ceonupe Jul 2013 #42
Only if you kill them all. Bonobo Jul 2013 #43
We Get tom_kelly Jul 2013 #44
Our former ally got thrown out. Igel Jul 2013 #90
tell that to N Korea Lurker Deluxe Jul 2013 #48
The 38th parallel was a compromise with the USSR. nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #49
So ... Lurker Deluxe Jul 2013 #70
If the US army wasn't there, they STILL would not come across. Bonobo Jul 2013 #72
no its our bombs radars drones that keep it in place ceonupe Jul 2013 #83
Riiiight! Lurker Deluxe Jul 2013 #86
Rah rah. Bonobo Jul 2013 #88
Elucidate, my dear Watson. You have my interest. raccoon Jul 2013 #80
The goal was to go light and strategic and setup a US/Western style system of gov. business and bank ceonupe Jul 2013 #85
did you get an erection when posting this? frylock Jul 2013 #96
a potentially a major set back for the Intelligence Industrial Complex to have one whistlebower Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #4
You should build this into an OP and elaborate upon its themes. Very HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #68
thank you - I'll have to give that some thought Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #76
I've not seen that the United States has done this. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #5
you're being disingenuous Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #6
No, I am not. There's a very specific charge being laid by the OP. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #7
I suppose when the Vice President of the United States calls the President of Ecuador Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #9
"ask him to deny Snowden asylum" =/= "says countries cannot offer asylum" Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #11
Goddamn there are some dense people on DU Scootaloo Jul 2013 #14
Goddamn you are getting close to the line there, Scootaloo. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #21
Actually we would call that Tien1985 Jul 2013 #30
semantics is all I have heard so far - spying is not REALLY spying, secret is not REALLY secret Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #32
So the United States cannot respond at all in a negative way to a country Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #59
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Tien1985 Jul 2013 #94
Threatening a course of action well within America's right to take is threatening, yes. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #95
Yeah, poor little you. We'll start collecting donations for your traumatic moment, there Scootaloo Jul 2013 #64
You need to resist this tendency of making your arguments so close to personal attacks. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #67
The greater the insults, the weaker the argument accompanying them, I have noticed. nt MADem Jul 2013 #101
Washington Warns Snowden May Only Travel to the US (Jay Carney WH Spokesman statement) Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #10
Your link is bad. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #12
if we are going to discuss things here ,, there has to be an element of seriousness Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #16
No, "trying to deny someone asylum" is not the claim of the OP. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #20
they have not threatend nuclear strike or an invasion and occupation,no... Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #26
Fair enough Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #17
Please see link below for official transcript. idwiyo Jul 2013 #41
Stand Corrected he did say it Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #45
No, he did not say "may not" Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #57
The US is obligated under international law to accept Snowden's version of events alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #61
Well, when you put it like that Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #62
There... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #79
How about this? Bonobo Jul 2013 #15
The diplomatic bullying is apparent to S.A. Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #18
That's not the United States saying you can't. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #19
It is -in diplomatic speak. nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #22
Here are a few quotes from Carney: morningfog Jul 2013 #31
Thank you for proving my point. Should not =/= may not. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #37
It's called International agreements and law. And no, the US isn't "telling" any nation to turn kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #54
None. n/t micraphone Jul 2013 #8
None whatsoever malaise Jul 2013 #23
Hope this answers your questions gholtron Jul 2013 #24
Haiti ? GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #29
My apologies. gholtron Jul 2013 #33
You do understand there are fugitives from other countries roaming the world, right? randome Jul 2013 #25
Yes. You are right. They have extradition agreements with us. djean111 Jul 2013 #38
That's certainly correct alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #50
And therin lies the threat. djean111 Jul 2013 #55
Exercise of sovereignty alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #58
I never said the US has no right to exercise its sovereignty. djean111 Jul 2013 #69
You're right to look at the power angle here alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #84
There is a difference Ken Burch Jul 2013 #100
No legitimate right whatsoever, but woo me with science Jul 2013 #27
Luis Posada Carriles. The US needs to STFU. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #34
+1 n2doc Jul 2013 #39
More to the point, many of the countries that have extradition treaties HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #71
What, the world is supposed to accept blindly that Venezuala does NOT torture? randome Jul 2013 #75
Pardon me, but if you maintain that the U.S. retains one iota of moral standing HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #77
We are no better nor worse than any other country. randome Jul 2013 #81
If you look only at the subject of invading countries without authorization HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #89
We did some shitty things in the recent past. No argument there. randome Jul 2013 #92
They can grant asylum, we can impose consequences shawn703 Jul 2013 #36
No...they give asylum (as many have suggested, to "stick it to the global bully"), and the US is alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #53
Well, not to personify too much, but as an example.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #65
I don't think it would come to a conflict of that nature shawn703 Jul 2013 #66
Sure, but if my neighbor takes as a house guest the person who burglarized my house alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #87
Not entirely. We don't have to grant them tariff/trade concessions, and we MADem Jul 2013 #102
None but diplomatic contacts can talk with others treestar Jul 2013 #46
I didn't know diplomacy meant giving orders to other countries Progressive dog Jul 2013 #51
Any country in their right mind would try to stop a country from doing the same... allin99 Jul 2013 #52
It's because the US occupies the moral high ground! Violet_Crumble Jul 2013 #56
When you carry the responsibility NM_Birder Jul 2013 #60
You have an interesting view of how diplomacy works Recursion Jul 2013 #63
Ever since WWII america has spread their wealth to help other countries especially southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #73
The U.S. has the 'right' to demand things from other countries. Those HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #74
We Are The Great and Mighty Oz... er... America! Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #78
Countries do not live in vacuums. They have to deal with each other. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #82
Every political prisoner has the right to seek asylum. PDJane Jul 2013 #91
Little hyperbolic in the op aren't you? Sheepshank Jul 2013 #93
Since you posed the question in legal terms onenote Jul 2013 #97
They don't have any right ... sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #98
What right does the US have? The US is the decider in all matters of international indepat Jul 2013 #99
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