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In reply to the discussion: I am getting the odd sense that some don't like Snowden because he made the establishment look bad [View all]Blanks
(4,835 posts)I'm not trying to shut down the discussion. I believe that there are people keeping the discussion afloat with ulterior motives.
Obviously, the solution to solving this NSA issue is through controlling elections. We should have moved on to influencing congress members a long time ago. They can either agree to 'tighten up' on the NSA or face losing their seat. We are far enough out from November 2014 that if we stopped whining and started acting we could actually have some impact.
I expect with the exception of the 'paulbot infestation folks' everyone would get behind some kind of petition that holds our democratic representatives feet to the fire if they don't take a certain (as yet undetermined) action against the 'shadow government'.
With all of the discussion invested into this; I'm disgusted that someone isn't working toward something like that. That's what's so disappointing about the volume of discussion. It could go on for years like this and the situation would only get worse.
I can see someone starting a thread a day updating members on the battle for 'intelligence oversight legislation', but lately it isn't the Democratic Underground its the NSA Bitch Session Site.
I don't see this 'data mining' as something new. There has been a battle with the government over these privacy issues for as long as I can remember. It isn't going to be resolved even if we win every election, and every candidate that won promised he was going to 'do something about it'. I've never seen the world work that way. It's one of the reasons I didn't wholeheartedly support Obama in 2008. I've watched politics for long enough to know when someone is over-promising. I supported him strongly in 2012; I see that he has some grit. That's what I respect about him. However, he's got a split congress and the republican controlled house that has held votes to repeal Obamacare 37 times (last I heard).
Anyone that thinks anything is going to get headed in the right direction as long as we've got dickheads like that controlling one of the law making bodies in this country needs to wake up. The president needs our support to get this country going in the right direction. The makeup of the House of Representatives must change.
This NSA thing is not the only issue and regardless of how unpopular it makes me here: I don't believe it's the most important issue. You won't change my opinion on that regardless of how many times you talk down to me or accuse me of not understanding. The importance of it will fade over time when the emotion dies down and all that it will have accomplished is a lot of wasted time.
Watch and learn. It is the way of the world.