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Rex

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16. As a taxpayer we demand better!

Reply to Cleita (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:49 PM

Jul 2013

No offense, but screw the days of "I want". We need to start demanding that if they are going to treat us shitty, at least be transparent about it. God knows we give them trillions of dollars that they seem to lose and then go 'oppsie'.

Of course a real move would be to immediately work at getting rid of the Patriot Act and trying hard not to pretend some guy that looks like the Shaw fucked us up so badly in the minds that we have the DHS and now another trillions of dollars in the whole. Kinda like the huge waste of money on the DEA. Kinda.

Or how about actually following these laws we hear about so much and trials for a few recent warmongers that know what they did in Iraq.

Don't get me started...

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If Snowden had only... [View all] SHRED Jul 2013 OP

he needed the powers of the Matrix. Rex Jul 2013 #1

Sorry, Georgie Porgie was never elected. Cleita Jul 2013 #8

Good point, that is true and I doubt he was elected in 2004 either. Rex Jul 2013 #10

Well, of course. Our intelligence should never have been turned over to a private Cleita Jul 2013 #13

As a taxpayer we demand better! Rex Jul 2013 #16

Good luck at getting rid of the Patriot Act considering our Dems signed on to it in spite Cleita Jul 2013 #17

The whole thing is about a distraction that leads to a distraction Rex Jul 2013 #21

They won! The saddest words today.n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #22

I knew they were true words growing up watching Ronald Wilson Reagan Rex Jul 2013 #23

Yep! And whatever part Greenwald played in . . . brush Jul 2013 #18

It is the thing both parties do NOT want to discuss. Rex Jul 2013 #20

Kind of difficult when the perjuring Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #32

Yes. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #2

Spying on the governments of other nations is one thing Fumesucker Jul 2013 #12

Given what happened to Bimmey and Drake nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3

Stayed and 'faced the justice system' like Manning? eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #4

+100 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #7

He would have had to have visited us all individually ... dawg Jul 2013 #5

He could have remained anonymous. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #25

But the data would still have gotten into foreign hands. dawg Jul 2013 #26

He had relevant info he wants to dump, he could have dumped it. Anonymously. At once. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #27

There is no more "anonymously". dawg Jul 2013 #28

He had to go to a news org. that would publish it and that turned Cleita Jul 2013 #6

It would have been nearly impossible trying to remain anonymous and a lot easier zeeland Jul 2013 #14

I'm not disagreeing that you could be right. Cleita Jul 2013 #19

The advantage of his remaining is that he can be more easily silenced. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #9

well put...thank you SHRED Jul 2013 #11

Our children are already suffering. zeeland Jul 2013 #24

Chaos theory. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #31

Exactly! brush Jul 2013 #15

No...we use international cooperation to get around US laws protecting citizens. dkf Jul 2013 #29

He'd be in Gitmo being waterboarded... 99Forever Jul 2013 #30

Some things that Snowden said are contradicted by some of the documents he released. Galraedia Jul 2013 #33