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reusrename

(1,716 posts)
156. Why do you think these peoples' rights are not respected?
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

You seem to have some alternate theory of abuse of power.

Why should the president demean himself to answer such insulting allegations? Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #1
Well, he's denied all sorts of other stuff MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #3
If he denied it, would that be the end of it for you? n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #11
It would be an important piece of evidence. nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #16
So, no, it's not that simple. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #18
As I wrote, "would go a long way" nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #19
But not as you wrote, "so so simple." n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #23
Ever listen to Phil Hendrie? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #26
No, you'd say he was lying. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #39
Oh no! The denial itself would be parsed. treestar Jul 2013 #129
Since when is proving your not a bully demeaning? Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #6
precisely -- most would jump at the chance to distance themselves from this fiasco nashville_brook Jul 2013 #100
You do not honestly believe the US played no role. morningfog Jul 2013 #17
On the one hand, I have someone who has accused the US of poisoning Hugo Chavez. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #22
Obama would have been cui fucking bonoed had Snowden morningfog Jul 2013 #28
"The French have apologized" Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #37
No, when Hollande learned it was Morales plane he granted the airspace request Fumesucker Jul 2013 #87
The chain of events on how the French decision was made needs to be laid out. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #88
Who thought Snowden was on the plane? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #91
That is one of the $64,000 questions. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #159
everything is Obama's job, silly treestar Jul 2013 #130
yes dionysus Jul 2013 #30
Do you read French, German or Spanish? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #49
Had German way too long ago to matter anymore Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #55
No. The French government has already offered a rather insufficient apology. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #67
Insufficient unless that's what happened, you mean. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #69
You might have a valid point Caretha Jul 2013 #111
No reason to think Morales was lying. And the entire event violated long established diplomatic JDPriestly Jul 2013 #117
Thank you for shining light onto the situation. truedelphi Jul 2013 #80
Just try reading some and listening to some on YouTube if you can find it. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #118
So has the US surveillance of Germany stopped? marions ghost Jul 2013 #108
The number is from the past because it refers to peak days. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #116
What I'm asking is... marions ghost Jul 2013 #143
Apparently some post-WWII treaty or agreement allows us to keep close watch over Germany. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #182
Snowden says we are in bed with the Germans marions ghost Jul 2013 #183
True. If you read and could translate any foreign languages, please e-mail me via DU. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #184
But remember; they're not Amurrken, so they're lying to make Amurrka look bad! Scootaloo Jul 2013 #178
uh, like motive? caseymoz Jul 2013 #70
From your link: Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #71
Why are you evading my question? caseymoz Jul 2013 #74
I abandon you to your contempt and your bad faith. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #76
Still evading . . . caseymoz Jul 2013 #78
I didn't put you on ignore. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #79
Morales stated that he did not let anyone on the plane and that it was never searched. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #120
thank you, n/t bcbink Jul 2013 #103
Accusations can be made in any language treestar Jul 2013 #131
Who ALSO benefits from seeing the US accused in this fashion? MADem Jul 2013 #96
How does getting stopped and frisked help Morales' esteem? reusrename Jul 2013 #135
It's always projection. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #136
Why do you think these peoples' rights are not respected? reusrename Jul 2013 #156
He could condemn the disrespect to a fellow democratically elected president. That would sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #20
OK, so deny he did it (from Manny) and now condemn it (from you). Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #25
He won't do it. HE may have had nothing to do with it. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #45
A Bolivian newspaper claimed that Morales said it was a breach of an international agreement. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #44
Exactly, and that is why now, Europeans are rushing to apologize. Once those rules are violated, sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #50
Agreed. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #52
Nailed it (as usual :) - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #58
That is precisely the problem. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #85
He'd have to be VERY certain no one in the CIA made calls leftstreet Jul 2013 #21
Bingo! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #27
wgy kardonb Jul 2013 #41
It was demeaning to respond to birthers because they were making crap up. sibelian Jul 2013 #72
and yet there was a clear response RE the birth certificate. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #98
Years after the birther BS went on and on. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #104
yes, and the fact that they kept on was their foul. your analogy is still quite weak...but worse, nashville_brook Jul 2013 #105
Once again, the line I am responding to from the OP Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #106
we get that -- you're way, waaaay off. use the birther smear all you want, it's lame. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #113
Exactly. It's not a made-up narrative. Ugly false equivalency fail. DirkGently Jul 2013 #114
The president orchestrated this whole elaborate series of events? That's not imaginary? Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #134
He doesn't have to have orchestrated it sibelian Jul 2013 #177
I am quoting the OP. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #179
OK, thanks for clarifying. nt. sibelian Jul 2013 #181
it's not remotely the same. this is an international incident that cali Jul 2013 #83
"orchestrating a series of extraordinary international events to force down the plane..." Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #84
gee, did I say any such thing? No. but the U.S. has refused to cali Jul 2013 #86
The OP did. I'll wait while you go read it and see what I'm responding to. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #89
why would the president allow the US to be in the position of NEEDING to explain? nashville_brook Jul 2013 #97
cause he probably did it or ordered it done? galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #125
He could spend all day denying these lunatic bullshit charges treestar Jul 2013 #128
The President works for us. He is not God. He is not King. He is responsible to us. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #154
A birther couldn't have said it any better. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #155
You have nothing but name calling. Shame. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #157
From your post: "Your post is absurd. Your idolic worship is childish." Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #158
do you understand the difference? "your post is absurd", vs. you are a birther. Do you think rhett o rick Jul 2013 #162
I never said you were a birther, rhett o rick. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #164
You have nothing but name calling. Low down name calling. Plez go away and pester someone rhett o rick Jul 2013 #165
You responded to me. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #166
If Obama has nothing to hide why is not being forthcoming. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #2
Manny, have you stopped beating your wife? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #4
Yes, a few weeks ago. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #7
Because she showed up over here.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #29
you need to try harder manny. dionysus Jul 2013 #34
Yes, he does try harder. And for what? Th1onein Jul 2013 #64
Because ProSense Jul 2013 #5
So he is a bully. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #9
"It just makes the bully look like a douche." ProSense Jul 2013 #10
Ducks do quack. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #13
The international law requires countries to respect the immunity of the heads of state among others JDPriestly Jul 2013 #51
"..We Can Neither Confirm Nor Deny The Existence Or NonExistence Of Records.." Segami Jul 2013 #8
Maybe he's not denying it because it's true. Cleita Jul 2013 #12
"We don't have the best record in dealing with world leaders we don't like." sheshe2 Jul 2013 #48
He's not the President I would have liked best, a real Democrat who works for Cleita Jul 2013 #144
The political leaders, the media spokespeople, party loyalists, truedelphi Jul 2013 #139
If you speak up in some situations, then your silence in others is telling. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #14
Or he could apologize for being an arrogant douche... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #15
Why should he grovel for people who hate him? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #40
Uh, maybe because he made a collassal fuck up.... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #54
Haters are never gonna trust him. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #57
So you think the US Ambassador to Austria acted unilaterally, HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #60
This has been confirmed or just reported on a random geek tragedy Jul 2013 #62
Austrian govt said so. It was reported. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #63
Just sayin'.... Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #73
So let me get this straight - in your world, a person doesn't have to truedelphi Jul 2013 #81
I am saying that people who hate the US geek tragedy Jul 2013 #110
And Orwell's words live on, and he was saying: truedelphi Jul 2013 #138
John Kerry said "backyard," and now half of DU thinks he's just another gringo imperialist BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #24
No one is safe. ProSense Jul 2013 #32
Those comments are fun BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #36
You get nothing. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #31
Manny, Hi sheshe2 here. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #33
Which remark(s) in particular? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #123
Manny, you asked a question~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2013 #151
But you know you won't hear that. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #35
Don't you know,... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #38
Yeah, right. And you'll call the denial bullshit. -nt CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #42
Is it true you are still beating your wife and kicking your dog? kristopher Jul 2013 #43
Bingo Hekate Jul 2013 #68
The bully pulpit is now the BULLY's pulpit. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #46
Yep. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #61
Wasn't that what is always was? treestar Jul 2013 #132
Sorry, Manny but you know damn well if the White House denied it, people would call them liars Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #47
Exactly. randome Jul 2013 #93
You are right on one thing here Manny. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #53
Our Government has: Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #56
+ 1. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #82
"The government" is not a single immortal entity WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #137
Joe McCarthy. The MIC couldn't use Fascism as a reason to inflate its profits Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #153
Again, overly simplistic WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #171
Oh I'm done talking to you. A history PhD Candidate is getting a lecture. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #172
You might be interested in chervilant Jul 2013 #161
hang in there Manny Phlem Jul 2013 #59
First, they would want to see his birth cert. Then they would want to know when he stopped beating Hekate Jul 2013 #65
you first bigtree Jul 2013 #66
Didn't you post that you were taking a break or something? Number23 Jul 2013 #75
Sure, but he also predicted the death of JoePhilly Jul 2013 #90
Just keep in mind Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #77
Now you did it, Manny will post ten OP's about being called a simpleton. great white snark Jul 2013 #112
I only do that for the insane stuff MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #121
What a wonderfully "uncomplicated" way of stating your opinion. dawg Jul 2013 #119
At this point everyone pretty much knows it's true. JoeyT Jul 2013 #92
Ouch. Painfully accurate. N/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #115
Observing your sig... brooklynite Jul 2013 #94
Yet. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #124
good one brooklynite! treestar Jul 2013 #133
Doesn't matter what he says at this point, he lacks credibility. bowens43 Jul 2013 #95
I think the administration has lost..... NCTraveler Jul 2013 #99
i wonder if this would have happened with Hillary still in the Sec of State position nashville_brook Jul 2013 #101
-1 Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #102
What, specifically, is the problem? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #140
Is the world always waiting for denials on issues that may or may not have direct US involvement? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #141
Do you realize that South America's leaders had an emergency meeting yesterday MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #142
And do you realize that this "crisis" for all appearances is 100% contrived? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #145
No, I don't. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #146
Well, Manny, let's be totally honest: Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #147
I said that? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #148
YOU, want a freaking link? tridim Jul 2013 #167
Link or slink MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #168
Link. DERPster. tridim Jul 2013 #169
I don't see a link... show us what you got. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #170
I prefer my President to deal in reality and ignore tin-foil libertarian fantasyland. tridim Jul 2013 #107
France denied airspace, Portugal denied landing, Spain and Austria have said they were told Snowden morningfog Jul 2013 #163
Probably a Tee Time Issue.. greytdemocrat Jul 2013 #109
But No Drama Obama doesn't do that sort of stuff n2doc Jul 2013 #122
The most effective way of telling us it's bullshit in weaselspeak is still being debated. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #126
Medieval treestar Jul 2013 #127
Some might have concluded the US has a "drone-happy" mentality by which indepat Jul 2013 #149
the phrase "plausible deniability" is made for such events arely staircase Jul 2013 #150
What, you're not used to this dying empire doing what all dying empires do? tavalon Jul 2013 #160
FYI: ProSense Jul 2013 #173
Forgive me for being dense, but MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #174
Impossible, that would end the record breaking chant of Rex Jul 2013 #175
The US gov't will neither confirm nor deny it's covert abuses of the rule of law. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #176
You really expect President Obama to weigh in on every crackpot theory involving the US? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #180
But, this one had the US ambassador in Austria making one call. morningfog Jul 2013 #185
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