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In reply to the discussion: It's so, so simple. Just tell us it's bullshit. [View all]Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)87. No, when Hollande learned it was Morales plane he granted the airspace request
How often do you suppose the head of state of a major nation gets involved with decisions over which individual planes may fly in the airspace of his country?
Personally I think that's a vanishingly rare occurrence.
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Why should the president demean himself to answer such insulting allegations?
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#1
precisely -- most would jump at the chance to distance themselves from this fiasco
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#100
On the one hand, I have someone who has accused the US of poisoning Hugo Chavez.
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#22
No, when Hollande learned it was Morales plane he granted the airspace request
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#87
The chain of events on how the French decision was made needs to be laid out.
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#88
No. The French government has already offered a rather insufficient apology.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#67
No reason to think Morales was lying. And the entire event violated long established diplomatic
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#117
Apparently some post-WWII treaty or agreement allows us to keep close watch over Germany.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#182
True. If you read and could translate any foreign languages, please e-mail me via DU.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#184
But remember; they're not Amurrken, so they're lying to make Amurrka look bad!
Scootaloo
Jul 2013
#178
Morales stated that he did not let anyone on the plane and that it was never searched.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#120
He could condemn the disrespect to a fellow democratically elected president. That would
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#20
A Bolivian newspaper claimed that Morales said it was a breach of an international agreement.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#44
Exactly, and that is why now, Europeans are rushing to apologize. Once those rules are violated,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#50
yes, and the fact that they kept on was their foul. your analogy is still quite weak...but worse,
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#105
we get that -- you're way, waaaay off. use the birther smear all you want, it's lame.
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#113
The president orchestrated this whole elaborate series of events? That's not imaginary?
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#134
"orchestrating a series of extraordinary international events to force down the plane..."
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#84
The OP did. I'll wait while you go read it and see what I'm responding to. n/t
Bolo Boffin
Jul 2013
#89
why would the president allow the US to be in the position of NEEDING to explain?
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#97
The President works for us. He is not God. He is not King. He is responsible to us.
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#154
do you understand the difference? "your post is absurd", vs. you are a birther. Do you think
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#162
You have nothing but name calling. Low down name calling. Plez go away and pester someone
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#165
The international law requires countries to respect the immunity of the heads of state among others
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#51
John Kerry said "backyard," and now half of DU thinks he's just another gringo imperialist
BeyondGeography
Jul 2013
#24
Sorry, Manny but you know damn well if the White House denied it, people would call them liars
Cali_Democrat
Jul 2013
#47
Joe McCarthy. The MIC couldn't use Fascism as a reason to inflate its profits
Nanjing to Seoul
Jul 2013
#153
Oh I'm done talking to you. A history PhD Candidate is getting a lecture.
Nanjing to Seoul
Jul 2013
#172
First, they would want to see his birth cert. Then they would want to know when he stopped beating
Hekate
Jul 2013
#65
Now you did it, Manny will post ten OP's about being called a simpleton.
great white snark
Jul 2013
#112
i wonder if this would have happened with Hillary still in the Sec of State position
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#101
Is the world always waiting for denials on issues that may or may not have direct US involvement?
Buzz Clik
Jul 2013
#141
Do you realize that South America's leaders had an emergency meeting yesterday
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2013
#142
And do you realize that this "crisis" for all appearances is 100% contrived?
Buzz Clik
Jul 2013
#145
I prefer my President to deal in reality and ignore tin-foil libertarian fantasyland.
tridim
Jul 2013
#107
France denied airspace, Portugal denied landing, Spain and Austria have said they were told Snowden
morningfog
Jul 2013
#163
The most effective way of telling us it's bullshit in weaselspeak is still being debated. nt
Zorra
Jul 2013
#126
The US gov't will neither confirm nor deny it's covert abuses of the rule of law.
99th_Monkey
Jul 2013
#176
You really expect President Obama to weigh in on every crackpot theory involving the US?
Nye Bevan
Jul 2013
#180