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55. There was probably some kind of fight

Reply to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:21 AM

Jul 2013

but otherwise .. preaching to the choir here.

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If Zimmerman gets off I fail to see how a person doing this wouldn't get off as well [View all] dsc Jul 2013 OP

second guy could throw first punch, then kill 1st guy when he thinks he is endangered uppityperson Jul 2013 #1

YUP Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #4

YUP Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #2

if you can get lucky with some bigots on the jury , even better JI7 Jul 2013 #3

it's true.. the biases (in all of us) run so deep Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #8

you forgot to say liberal a second okieinpain Jul 2013 #40

I'll say it three times and click my heels together. However Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #57

It is the lack of eyewitnesses that makes the Zimmerman prosecution so difficult hack89 Jul 2013 #5

I'm furious that (most) everyone seems to be ignoring, or dismissive of, Rachel's testimony. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #13

She still couldn't see what happened kudzu22 Jul 2013 #23

What if she had been there in person, but blind? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #56

NOT to mention-there is NO proof there even was a fight. That is a faux meme NOT coorborated graham4anything Jul 2013 #26

They were just on the ground hugging perhaps? Pelican Jul 2013 #51

There was probably some kind of fight Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #55

Well, according to one poster here... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #31

so if you stalks someone, get in a scuffle, and kill them... killbotfactory Jul 2013 #49

That's true. Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #6

if you brought up the zimmerman case to someone and it Trayvon was a White Kid JI7 Jul 2013 #10

True, Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #17

They wouldn't need to. Zimmerman would have been killed "while resisting arrest." yardwork Jul 2013 #29

If Trayvon RobinA Jul 2013 #60

There will need to be a new public education campaign: Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #18

Isn't This Just RobinA Jul 2013 #61

I think that is the entire point etherealtruth Jul 2013 #7

First lesson of life, don't throw a punch if someone says something nasty Azathoth Jul 2013 #9

And the lesson before that is, Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #15

Well, To Me RobinA Jul 2013 #62

+1 JVS Jul 2013 #20

but as a gay guy who got the crap beat out of him when he didn't fight back dsc Jul 2013 #22

Well... Azathoth Jul 2013 #25

I would recommend that you get a gun, learn how to use it, and learn the laws about self defense. JVS Jul 2013 #37

So gun nuts have more rights than normal people? n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #44

Everyone has the same rights. A gun can be useful to make sure other people respect your rights. JVS Jul 2013 #47

A 17 year old can't legally carry a gun exboyfil Jul 2013 #58

There's no evidence that Martin threw any punch at all. yardwork Jul 2013 #30

Don't forget the Fox News hue and cry: Nevernose Jul 2013 #11

It could happen. It points to problems with "armed citizens" DirkGently Jul 2013 #12

It is "Chekhov's gun" writ large. Liberal Veteran Jul 2013 #33

A very apt application of that principle. DirkGently Jul 2013 #54

we already had a guy in Texas who was aquitted for killing a woman because she refused to have sex JI7 Jul 2013 #14

I hear there have already been bar fights and gang member brawls where one guy pulls out a gun... Kablooie Jul 2013 #16

Race plays a major role in those Nevernose Jul 2013 #19

For good or bad I would wager that there is a lot Duckwraps Jul 2013 #63

I've been saying this from the jump about this case. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #21

You don't have a right to assault someone because they call you a name. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #24

there is no evidence Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman, but we have Zimmerman on tape JI7 Jul 2013 #28

GZ's testimony is evidence. You choose to disregard that particular evidence... Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #59

Self defense is very broad in Florida. dkf Jul 2013 #27

By all rights, someone should be able to walk to the store without being questioned. Liberal Veteran Jul 2013 #32

Not necessarily. rrneck Jul 2013 #34

You can't beat people up LittleBlue Jul 2013 #35

no evidence Martin Beat anyone JI7 Jul 2013 #36

How do you explain his injuries? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #38

probably fell down, he claimed his head was slammed on concrete like 30 tmes JI7 Jul 2013 #39

Fell down? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #41

no evidence to show his head was slammed 30 times on concrete floor JI7 Jul 2013 #43

Okay, I don't know how many times his LittleBlue Jul 2013 #46

Your story is not consistent with all the witnesses who testified about a struggle. JVS Jul 2013 #42

it was dark , witnesses even changed their story at times JI7 Jul 2013 #45

But all of the witnesses agree on there being a struggle on the ground, and the ballistics... JVS Jul 2013 #48

Do you realize how desperate that sounds? Pelican Jul 2013 #53

Stay calm and don't go to bars. ileus Jul 2013 #50

I am nonviolent but tblue Jul 2013 #52