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199. Morales does not have a "right" to fly over anywhere
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:29 AM
Jul 2013

other than perhaps Bolivia. Neither does Obama.

I can't believe Europe is fucking playing along with this bullshit. Marrah_G Jul 2013 #1
Hnk! Why not? sibelian Jul 2013 #4
Good point Marrah_G Jul 2013 #17
Or bugged - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #42
The U.S. was already bugging them... JimDandy Jul 2013 #179
A continent of skeletons rattling in the closet. kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #25
EW! EW EW EW!!!! Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #32
Masterpiece - should be its own OP! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #46
Win Azathoth Jul 2013 #170
Ugh. sibelian Jul 2013 #243
The Zombie Apocalypse is true!. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #260
Exposure embarrasses the intelligence community felix_numinous Jul 2013 #264
No need for jets to be scrambled when no-fly zones have been put in place n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #78
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #144
Here's my take on it rbixby Jul 2013 #251
Sounds like what Manning did, how did that work out for him? n/t A Simple Game Jul 2013 #284
He would disappear sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #313
W O W..... alittlelark Jul 2013 #2
Thank you for posting. I'll pass this along, indeed. eom +1 Purveyor Jul 2013 #3
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #5
Why don't you go find a kid to push in the dirt, eh? nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #10
The what now? alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #15
No man, I'm just too busy hating you for your freedoms. nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #19
Oh alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #24
It's cool, keep on going! Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #26
Is that the goal? alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #29
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #37
Oh, my alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #39
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Jul 2013 #48
I do believe he is referring to a caffeine high colonic. Look it up. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #45
The hazards of the edit function jberryhill Jul 2013 #49
When I said "great liberal minds" Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #93
Apparently the post was about anal rape alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #52
"Oh, Lord, for your everyday, run-of-the-mill caffeine colonics." Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #65
Hey, detaining heads of state just-because in no way resembles Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #98
STOP IT ROMULUS Skittles Jul 2013 #180
Really ! In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #282
And it is this arrogant attitude that forced the South American Nations to form their own version sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #110
Pretty much exactly this. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #113
TL;DR alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #114
Good jorb using old 4chan memes. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #121
Oh, I do 70's shit, too... alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #127
I'm sorry I'm infringing on your Constitutional right to be obnoxious on the internet. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #130
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #131
Stop Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #133
And old, outdated and ineffective. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #140
Oboviously,'where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise' sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #125
Mmmmwahhhh alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #128
So I'm told, frequently! sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #135
Sad upi402 Jul 2013 #137
it is a diplomatic balls-up bred from the arrogance of ultimate power Swagman Jul 2013 #306
Oboy. grasswire Jul 2013 #6
No kidding. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #18
If that's really what happened, I agree it's beyond the pale struggle4progress Jul 2013 #7
I agree Renew Deal Jul 2013 #63
The totalitarians are pissed and the mask is slipping usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #8
LOL France and Portugal Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #50
Nope. Just the security state of the U.S. are the totalitarians with enough power to make most bend usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #81
That's a FACT?! Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #88
Yep. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #92
Dude, he rolling smilied you. That's like an insta win. nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #95
lol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #99
Every time one of them punts one out my self-confidence withers a tiny bit. sibelian Jul 2013 #169
Oh, good grief. aquart Jul 2013 #287
Simplistic much? What juvenile drivel. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #288
Oh, now we're doing the playground repeating game. aquart Jul 2013 #289
Just holding up a mirror usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #290
Unreal LittleBlue Jul 2013 #9
So, who's the "power mad rampaging world leader?" nt MADem Jul 2013 #12
You voted for him. wtmusic Jul 2013 #23
You are quite sure Pootie Poot isn't having a laugh? MADem Jul 2013 #33
I'm quite sure Pootie Poot is shitting his pants wtmusic Jul 2013 #51
I'm sure quite sure he is , he is playing us like a fiddle. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #55
Did you vote for Obama? Renew Deal Jul 2013 #57
Yes wtmusic Jul 2013 #66
Then I'm confused about your post Renew Deal Jul 2013 #69
We all voted for him wtmusic Jul 2013 #86
...... MADem Jul 2013 #192
Snowdon is NOT a hero. Heros dont run to the opposition. 7962 Jul 2013 #293
Sorry, carla Jul 2013 #302
Probably smuggling cocaine, Rush Limbaugh looking for underage prostitutes, and Snowjob itsrobert Jul 2013 #11
So, apparently the NSA's zeal in maintaining their power trumps foreign leaders' freedom? NoodleyAppendage Jul 2013 #13
A year or two later, actually. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #20
Hoho! Godwin's Law! wtmusic Jul 2013 #21
I feel that Godwin's Law is kind of like the Pirate Code. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #54
ha! reusrename Jul 2013 #225
His freedom to override air traffic control of other countries? jberryhill Jul 2013 #56
Yes, he is indeed being held hostage. wtmusic Jul 2013 #60
Then we won't mind if our President's plane is rerouted when flying over South America on suspicion sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #119
Indeed it can be jberryhill Jul 2013 #123
Morales had a right to fly over Europe. We're not talking about 'not having a right to fly' we are sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #134
You can't just recognize sovereignty when it is convenient jberryhill Jul 2013 #138
Like I said, Morales has a right to fly where he was flying. This was an outrageous insult to the sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #142
Morales does not have a "right" to fly over anywhere treestar Jul 2013 #199
Morales, as the leader of a sovereign state, just like American citizens btw, has the right not to sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #247
Each sovereign state has the right to do as it pleases treestar Jul 2013 #249
I think most countries would let President Obama come if he wants to. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #295
you are wrong Swagman Jul 2013 #308
No, I'm not wrong treestar Jul 2013 #312
Well...that moves the stakes up a notch. nt wtmusic Jul 2013 #14
Are we sure we really want to open this can of worms? roamer65 Jul 2013 #16
The surveillance state must be smashed. It is out of control. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #22
This could be interpreted as an act of war nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #27
It could. wtmusic Jul 2013 #36
not to mention the hacking into the worlds communication systems to spy usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #96
If I had started reading a book, and this was the first chapter Savannahmann Jul 2013 #28
This will be ugly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #62
Down Right U-gilly LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #91
It is surreal isn't it? Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #70
It's past surreal and into other dimensional. n/t JimDandy Jul 2013 #185
You got that right. Fiction has to be plausible. Reality has no such restrictions, apparently! nt Poll_Blind Jul 2013 #82
Why doesn't Snowden just come back home to his loving Uncle Sam? reusrename Jul 2013 #230
He's a scoundrel. Poor, humble, gentle, strong Obama. sibelian Jul 2013 #244
I guess they could get a ghost writer to do a book. reusrename Jul 2013 #315
What, exactly, are the PTB so desperate to hide? It must be pretty bad. JEB Jul 2013 #30
Bravo Austria !!! Let Morales fly out on a different plane, if Snowden is on that grounded plane... Tx4obama Jul 2013 #31
and if snowden isn't on that plane? frylock Jul 2013 #43
Good Question LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #94
So much for the Peace of Westphalia (1648). Next stop: the Magna Carta - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #72
I think we've overflown the Magna Carta and Hammurabi's Code wtmusic Jul 2013 #80
LOL - Nero or Caligula? Can't keep my Roman douchebags straight! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #90
I was thinking Caesar, but if diverted we could land at either of the others. wtmusic Jul 2013 #118
The NDAA did away with the Magna Carta. bvar22 Jul 2013 #267
Yes, I noticed that, too. N/T TheJames Jul 2013 #311
cue the totalitarian cheerleaders usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #106
You are not doing the President any favors with this type of post. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #143
What about international law? The president's plane has absolute immunity. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #147
Really? The USA has already intimidated one country into... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #155
Is that you, John Kerry? JimDandy Jul 2013 #187
Why not a drone strike? reusrename Jul 2013 #231
They've finally taken down the scenery and pulled the curtains back. pa28 Jul 2013 #34
We'll probably find out tomorrow what happened flamingdem Jul 2013 #35
We are spying on all communications no telling who the source was n/t usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #108
Trying to inspect a head of state's plane is an absolute non starter Recursion Jul 2013 #38
Holy Shit! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #40
What in the hell is he about to expose? This is getting intense. Firebrand Gary Jul 2013 #44
Perhaps THE DIRT! Think MKULTRA, Tuskegee, etc all rolled into one big scandal. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #162
ambassador for Spain in Austria has just informed that there is no authorization to fly over Spanish Catherina Jul 2013 #47
Damn. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #53
Let's hope it's not Obama but Bush/Cheney. Cleita Jul 2013 #64
Rather than that lets hope for the truth no matter who is implicated. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #148
I do. He promised transparancy, and failed to deliver. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #171
Or he is a threat to he US in general. Renew Deal Jul 2013 #67
The U.S. government has created this threat and they're making it bigger. nt wtmusic Jul 2013 #71
Not sure what you mean. Renew Deal Jul 2013 #77
You can draw a solid black line from when the decision was made to spy wtmusic Jul 2013 #97
Snowden has made provisions for the possibility that something might totodeinhere Jul 2013 #150
"worth starting a war over" EX500rider Jul 2013 #269
Forcing down a head of state's plane for inspection is an act of war. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #275
Except no ones plane was forced down. EX500rider Jul 2013 #277
Newsflash: Planes can't stay in the air indefinitely. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #279
No wars Iliyah Jul 2013 #58
Holy cripes. woo me with science Jul 2013 #59
Wow DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #61
Wow! Holy shit! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #68
No, not if he's a beaner. Trust me. Sovereign heads of State from South America Cleita Jul 2013 #79
! LAGC Jul 2013 #136
Pres Kirchner "tomorrow is going to be a long and difficult day. Be calm. They will not be able to Catherina Jul 2013 #73
I have no faith in Kirchner, sorry.n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #83
Makes you wonder if we're the good guys or the bad guys, doesn't? davidn3600 Jul 2013 #74
Right now we are the bad guys. We always were the scary guys but kinda cool Cleita Jul 2013 #85
I doubt that Snowden is on Morales jet but so what? PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #75
Or, not Recursion Jul 2013 #76
??? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #112
"it was an American story that Edward Snowden was on this flight' Catherina Jul 2013 #84
Live-blogging of this incident by the Guardian: backscatter712 Jul 2013 #87
Interesting.... #Hollande denies Bolivian president's plane to fly over Catherina Jul 2013 #101
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #89
I don't believe in petitions but in this case, I want my # on the record Catherina Jul 2013 #116
Noted. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #120
I can't believe, I ever gave the US the benefit of the doubt. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #177
If you're curious, dig at MKUltra's gravesite Hydra Jul 2013 #265
Funny how they feel it's a duty to be anti-social to every socialist. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #100
WikiLeaks attacks Obama's 'thin-skinned vindictiveness' in Snowden row Catherina Jul 2013 #102
This is crazy. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #103
If Snowden turns out to be on that flight, El Presidente is gonna have some splainin' to do Azathoth Jul 2013 #104
Yeah, we'll stick him in a cell right next to the whistleblower and teach him a hard lesson, eh? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #115
Nah, he's not heading for a cell Azathoth Jul 2013 #126
Yeah, it probably something worse than that even, we've seen the pictures of what they do to people usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #132
No, President Morales has every right under international law to transport whomever he wants totodeinhere Jul 2013 #153
Wrong. He doesn't have the "right" to transport people Azathoth Jul 2013 #160
Not according to the Bolivians totodeinhere Jul 2013 #228
They can "interpret" this however they like Azathoth Jul 2013 #266
The idea of political asylum is a noble one. reusrename Jul 2013 #233
Political asylum only applies to refugees Azathoth Jul 2013 #304
This is staggering denial. reusrename Jul 2013 #307
Then international law is suffering from staggering denial Azathoth Jul 2013 #309
It's exactly what is envisioned. He is a political refugee. reusrename Jul 2013 #310
listening device found in UK Ecuadoran Embassy in office used for discussions by Patino & Assange Catherina Jul 2013 #105
They will disclose on Wednesday who controls that listening device Catherina Jul 2013 #246
Either the US or the Brits. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #276
Pic of Morales waiting at airport Catherina Jul 2013 #107
He is friend Iliyah Jul 2013 #109
Bolivia's VP: "Colonies are no longer in Latin America. They are in Europe and respond to the U.S." Catherina Jul 2013 #111
I like that they are indignant. I hope the nations surrounding Bolivia back them up, Cleita Jul 2013 #117
I hope to see united Latin American action in response. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #129
The thing is the North Americans are very afraid of a united South America. Cleita Jul 2013 #139
As for the demand to search the plane, he stressed, “This is blackmail, we are refusing..." Catherina Jul 2013 #122
WOW the frist amendent huh? Iliyah Jul 2013 #124
Ecuador, Venezuela, Snowden and Assange Targeted by Mysterious Hacker Catherina Jul 2013 #141
Doubly interesting given the news that the embassy was bugged suffragette Jul 2013 #255
I doubt it too. They'll say who was controlling the bug on Wednesday. I can't wait Catherina Jul 2013 #256
Yes, and hacker's denial of gov't connection is carefully parsed. The embassy bugging reminds me suffragette Jul 2013 #259
Our government needs to back the fuck off, right now!!! Lonr Jul 2013 #145
image: crew members sleeping at the airport whilst news reports of Edward Snowden are transmitted Catherina Jul 2013 #146
Im Sure DallasNE Jul 2013 #149
What next sam_25tx Jul 2013 #151
Peru confirms attendance for emergency UNASUR meeting / Latin American Ingegration Catherina Jul 2013 #152
Come to Cali Iliyah Jul 2013 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author chrislindsay23 Jul 2013 #156
President Correa "“Decisive hours for UNASUR! Either we graduated from the colonies, or we claim ... Catherina Jul 2013 #157
Amazing turn of events. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #158
This message was self-deleted by its author chrislindsay23 Jul 2013 #159
South America should start seizing western assets. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #161
hm. sibelian Jul 2013 #163
Not a problem. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #164
... sibelian Jul 2013 #165
Who pulls Obama's strings? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #167
Well, we'll see. nt sibelian Jul 2013 #172
When Spain dragged its feet to recognize President Maduro's election victory Catherina Jul 2013 #166
President of Austria just arrived, talking with President Morales, no word from Spain on airspace Catherina Jul 2013 #168
10 hours and counting now. Since this international incident began n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #173
FALSE ALARM: Spain will allow #Bolivian President’s jet into its airspace – Austrian President Catherina Jul 2013 #174
This is un-fu*king-belivable. WWIII was pegged for the ME. n/t JimDandy Jul 2013 #197
I can't believe this is happening! zeeland Jul 2013 #175
I hope Snowden is on that plane or another one Catherina Jul 2013 #178
I sincerely believe Mandela zeeland Jul 2013 #181
There have been too many accidents involving planes carrying politicians, whistle-blowers, and AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #272
Audio of alleged conversation between Morales pilot and Vienna control room Catherina Jul 2013 #176
Audio above is genuine Catherina Jul 2013 #240
There are two things I'm curious about davidpdx Jul 2013 #182
France, lying through its teeth. Anonymous officials, not authorized to speak, blah, blah Catherina Jul 2013 #183
Spain is still blocking Bolivian President's flight through their airspace - Reuters additional magellan Jul 2013 #184
Unbelievable! And after the Austrian President relayed it was open. FUBAR n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #188
Well, now Austria is mad at Spain! magellan Jul 2013 #190
You're welcome my friend Catherina Jul 2013 #194
I had no idea you were in Guatemala! magellan Jul 2013 #200
SPAIN RESCINDS airspace permission a few minutes later after Morales refuses to let them inspect Catherina Jul 2013 #186
A rumor? LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #189
More like NSA intel Catherina Jul 2013 #193
Right LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #205
Did Morales himself make any statements about Snowden not being onboard? Catherina Jul 2013 #207
Not sure. LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #212
Austrian foreign minister annoyed, "We don't understand, why Spain is acting like that." Catherina Jul 2013 #191
And it gets even stranger... magellan Jul 2013 #195
"condition of anonymity" "department rules" "not authorised to be publicly named" Bullshit n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #198
both French and Spanish officials have denied refusing to let Morales's plane cross their airspace Catherina Jul 2013 #196
Thanks for your updates! n/t JimDandy Jul 2013 #201
You're welcome Jim Catherina Jul 2013 #209
Morales is boarding his plane again magellan Jul 2013 #202
And we have takeoff! magellan Jul 2013 #203
Yes. Give me a minute n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #204
The plane is a Dassault Falcon 900EX. Tracking link for FAB-001 Catherina Jul 2013 #206
Thank you! n/t magellan Jul 2013 #211
Do we dare go to sleep? n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #213
I haven't even had dinner yet so I'm good for a bit magellan Jul 2013 #215
I suddenly started fading. Catherina Jul 2013 #220
Mais oui! magellan Jul 2013 #222
Can't sleep lol. The roosters are already crowing! Catherina Jul 2013 #223
You've got it magellan Jul 2013 #232
Le Monde is reporting that France did deny him entry to their airspace. nt LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #208
Do you have a link? Catherina Jul 2013 #210
Yep. LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #214
They added that weasel "selon lui" (according to him) but Wow, they didn't search the plane Catherina Jul 2013 #216
De rien. :) nt LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #217
Merci :) Catherina Jul 2013 #219
Diplomatic row is on, say France Portugal Spain and Italy "violated international law", going to UN Catherina Jul 2013 #218
What is it that Snowden has (or they are scared that he has)? idwiyo Jul 2013 #221
I hope we soon find out. But Snowden already disbursed the files Catherina Jul 2013 #226
Assuming he told the truth and didn't hold something back. idwiyo Jul 2013 #227
That too. Greenwald said he (GG) has a lot more to release Catherina Jul 2013 #236
EU Commission spokeswoman: not entirely clear... why the French and Portuguese decided to divert flt Catherina Jul 2013 #224
As I said this is a major violation of international law malaise Jul 2013 #229
Plane is currently over Spain... SidDithers Jul 2013 #234
I never knew you were in Guatemala, Catherina. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #235
You're welcome my friend :) n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #237
I am just catching up on all of this. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #238
It is profoundly upsetting. It was an incredibly stupid stunt to boot. Catherina Jul 2013 #241
Reporters Without Borders and Assange cosign op-Ed in Le Monde calling on EU to Protect Snowden Catherina Jul 2013 #239
Seems we overpaid for our all-seeing eye. Snarkoleptic Jul 2013 #242
Snowden's taking the laptops to Mount Etna. sibelian Jul 2013 #248
Sauron should not have used contractors either. nt Pholus Jul 2013 #252
Go Frodo! n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #257
I am sure if this happened to Airforce One it would be no problem. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #245
The veil of the Shadow Government has been lifted Ter Jul 2013 #250
Ooh boy, the plane is en route to the Canaries nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #253
I think it's just landed. n/t magellan Jul 2013 #254
Washington Post Shamelss Propaganda Catherina Jul 2013 #258
Hmm, now let's think about this for a moment magellan Jul 2013 #261
Yes! And they're pushing the WAPO propaganda hard. You can always spot them Catherina Jul 2013 #263
This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jul 2013 #261
State Dept confirms it's been in contact with overflight countries magellan Jul 2013 #268
This "in contact" is related to the overall issue of asylum and not the Bolivian plane incident flamingdem Jul 2013 #273
no, the briefing was about transit, not asylum temmer Jul 2013 #294
Whatever Snowden has TERRIFIES the HELL out of the Obama Administration. bvar22 Jul 2013 #270
Certainly makes one ponder the possibilities. Mere spying can't be it. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #274
Yep. Either that, or Obama ... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #280
I would say that Europe isn't too thrilled either. aquart Jul 2013 #286
My partner points out TheJames Jul 2013 #314
The Obama Administration is sending a message to all other Heads of States. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #271
Well, then, just WTH does he think he is, emperor of the world? Europe will put him in his place. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #278
Latin America already has. bvar22 Jul 2013 #301
He's in the 1%, and is an ineffectual, limp tool. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #305
REC # 100 Coyotl Jul 2013 #281
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #283
Even if Snowden was on board, this was outrageous and unacceptable. aquart Jul 2013 #285
I fear for Snowden warrprayer Jul 2013 #291
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #292
US AMBASSADOR told Austria to extradite Snowden yesterday. Was convinced he was on plane (article) Catherina Jul 2013 #296
What's this "Die Presse"? Must be some rw rag or something magellan Jul 2013 #316
Flight is on final approach for landing in Brazil. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #297
Wow Catherina, what an amzing job of covering this as it unfolds. Many thanks. JEB Jul 2013 #298
You're welcome. It was an interesting night of DU solidarity with this story. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #299
Will put future updates in a different thread Catherina Jul 2013 #300
We have libdude Jul 2013 #303
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