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RC

(25,592 posts)
19. That depends.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

Do you think the 4th Amendment only applies insides your home? And sometimes only if you own it?

What do you think of the Local, State and Federal governments, tear gassing and using rubber bullets on peaceful demonstrations against the actions of a government acting counter to the US Constitution, or normal laws in effect? (Article I)

What do you think of Bradly Manning being tortured and held prisoner, in isolation, without access to an attorney, for over a year? (Article V & VI)

It seems to me, most people of average of better intelligence should be able to figure that out for themselves. Even though the national news is heavily based to the Right, there is still enough information getting through from other sources, we should be able to figure out the real facts and determine the truth after a while. We just have to take the time look.
Think of the news as a puzzle, you have to put together to see the complete picture.
With enough pieces, with the picture beginning to emerge, any pieces in the wrong place or that do not belong soon become obvious.
The trick is to question, do not blindly accept what you were first told, especially later, when too may pieces to not fit the picture.

I've heard talk that he was a spy Renew Deal Jul 2013 #1
Very naive NightWatcher Jul 2013 #2
IIUC, NYTimes article says part of his repertoire was hacking. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #3
I will take number 2 Andy823 Jul 2013 #5
I do as well and I think the hackers are Chinese and located in Hong Kong flamingdem Jul 2013 #17
or, 3, he criminally hacked the government and they flipped him and KurtNYC Jul 2013 #15
Darn, Kurt. I think you might have nailed it. Your post just sounds spot on. Yes, it's conjecture- KittyWampus Jul 2013 #30
Snowden SamKnause Jul 2013 #4
Any exposure malaise Jul 2013 #8
Yep..not all smart folks have common sense HipChick Jul 2013 #16
One might ask the same question ... Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #6
One might ask the same basic question ... RC Jul 2013 #7
Do any of us ever get answers? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #10
That depends. RC Jul 2013 #19
Isn't this about Snowden? Where are you headed? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #20
You can't see the connection? RC Jul 2013 #21
Of course. They are related, but Manning and Snowden's cases are quite different. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #22
Maybe that is a clue? RC Jul 2013 #27
His distractors? Snowden is distracted? That might help explain things. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12
Yeah...another genius operation by "Paulbots" and the Teabaggers DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #9
Bingo. I can't think of one Tea Bagger capable of anything this extensive. Atman Jul 2013 #29
All he did was reveal some embarassing violations of the 4th Amendment. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #11
People are still waiting for the "revealing" part. Not the "promise to reveal" part. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #13
Fair call. What I don't get is why the US can cancel his passport when he hasn't even been charged. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #18
Because he's been named in a federal warrant. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #24
But not an international one. They stole his identity without charges against him. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #25
It doesn't matter, his passport can be revoked due to being named in a federal warrant: JaneyVee Jul 2013 #26
Most whistleblowers are naive Union Scribe Jul 2013 #14
Off the scale. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #23
He seems to have ripped the NSA off for everything they had to rip off. bemildred Jul 2013 #28
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