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former9thward

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108. That little exception you tried to put in there is not so little.

Reply to ConservativeDemocrat (Reply #94)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:50 PM

Jun 2013

"except for computerization" Computerization allows spying to go millions of times faster and encompass millions of times larger pools of information. It has changed the program in qualitative ways not just quantitative.

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Jimmy Carter on Snowden: "The invasion of human rights in American privacy has gone too far" [View all] Catherina Jun 2013 OP

God Bless you President Carter!! Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #1

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #2

Thank goodness for the old timers who can bring us back to our senses. dkf Jun 2013 #3

+1 Go Vols Jun 2013 #48

indeed Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #109

Now the Third Wayers can hate Carter even more MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #4

our greatest living president IMHO frylock Jun 2013 #24

+100000 JDPriestly Jun 2013 #136

I won't disagree that he's our greatest living FORMER president. JayhawkSD Jun 2013 #164

"He's obviously violated the laws of America, for which he's responsible, msanthrope Jun 2013 #66

Only in your angry, hate-filled, dreams, Manny... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #94

That little exception you tried to put in there is not so little. former9thward Jun 2013 #108

An off subject analogy. timdog44 Jun 2013 #151

So we are finely getting to people you wont throw under the bus. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #121

I like your statement. midnight Jun 2013 #160

What liberalmike27 Jun 2013 #162

Yeah. I mean, have you ever seen Jimmy in a bathing suit? Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #152

I love this fucking thread! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #163

He must be a racist, ron paul libertarian, or just plain out commie nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy. L0oniX Jun 2013 #12

Yup, terrible I tell ya! Somebody needs to keep the propaganda straight nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #13

well since he said snowden should be prosecuted arely staircase Jun 2013 #50

Sounds like he gave a nuanced (read: pragmatic) response Number23 Jun 2013 #144

du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #6

this needs to go viral - please recommend and keep kicking Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #7

okay. Matariki Jun 2013 #9

thanks - this needs to go to the front page Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #63

+1 woo me with science Jun 2013 #125

Under the bus you go Jimmy. progressoid Jun 2013 #8

Well, he's a notorious libertarian and probably has boxes in his garage. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #10

didn't he have a girl friend who is a pole dancer? Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #69

No, he's just had lustful thoughts robbob Jun 2013 #82

maybe that was it - I wonder if Mr. Snowden has lustful thoughts too. He seems to be such a seedy Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #101

Well ...that will pissoff the assholes. L0oniX Jun 2013 #11

Possible Duzy! ReRe Jun 2013 #26

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #14

Welcome to the awesome party under the bus, Jimmy! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #15

K&R Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #16

26 Senators and a great President Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #17

Carter is right Recursion Jun 2013 #18

Give it a few minutes Go Vols Jun 2013 #20

Hey, I'm a notorious sensible woodchuck Recursion Jun 2013 #22

K&R...Thanks for posting.......Jimmy Carter is brilliant! red dog 1 Jun 2013 #19

That's not ProSense Jun 2013 #21

ProSense, you are good. ucrdem Jun 2013 #23

here is the entire quote so people decide for themselves Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #27

oops. game. set. match. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #28

Not complete. It's missing the part where Jimmy says he broke the law and should be tried flamingdem Jun 2013 #29

no Jimmy is not a "libertarian" nor are those of us who are committed to constitutional democracy Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #33

I know flamingdem Jun 2013 #35

Put em together and what do you have? Pholus Jun 2013 #36

Jimmy knows what time it is flamingdem Jun 2013 #37

not true .. the entire quote is there Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #47

I totally agree with this NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #43

/ Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #54

Intelligent response. Carter is one of our most intelligent presidents ever. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #138

Wow. He really doesn't understand chess Doctor_J Jun 2013 #159

Well, this is: Maedhros Jun 2013 #30

You finally GOT it! Pholus Jun 2013 #32

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #38

Yes, Snowden was always secondary to the core issue. Pholus Jun 2013 #41

Thanks, ProSense Jun 2013 #44

. Pholus Jun 2013 #51

. ProSense Jun 2013 #53

Your duplicitous posts have made it abundantly clear where you stand on civil liberties whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #55

I stand ProSense Jun 2013 #59

Both lies. whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #61

Oh, ProSense Jun 2013 #62

Your tangential link shuffle whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #64

. ProSense Jun 2013 #65

Yeah whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #67

Did you expect anything else? Lies are the stock in trade of the state propagandist. Check it: Zorra Jun 2013 #147

You've got a black or white thing going on but that's cool Herlong Jun 2013 #86

No, I don't, but nice try. ProSense Jun 2013 #87

ProSense is my favorite! Herlong Jun 2013 #95

Shameful, Prosense. And a stain forever, here at DU. Trust the Bill of Rights. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #113

"Shameful," chimpymustgo. ProSense Jun 2013 #114

Do you agree with Carter that if Snowden is given asylum in some JDPriestly Jun 2013 #140

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #141

See post 116. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #117

It would be helpful if you'd add a few links for post 116. ;) DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #126

Please translate! Herlong Jun 2013 #104

The extent of surveillance programs in the US. nt Pholus Jun 2013 #107

Awsome if true Herlong Jun 2013 #110

All the crowing up above it just so typical treestar Jun 2013 #73

Prosense: "Spying on Americans was, is and will still be illegal." woo me with science Jun 2013 #116

WELL, THERE YA GO. sibelian Jun 2013 #118

KICK. sibelian Jun 2013 #119

Sounds like fun. :) woo me with science Jun 2013 #120

"Here's to transparency." ProSense Jun 2013 #132

Ah, can't quit ProSense Jun 2013 #130

Oh good LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #166

Well, at least you can pretend. ProSense Jun 2013 #168

One of us is pretending alright LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #171

Haha awesome! whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #131

Isn't it telling, the shift. woo me with science Jun 2013 #167

Thank you, woo.... truth2power Jun 2013 #156

Scahill is absolutely right. woo me with science Jun 2013 #157

Yes, it does bear repeating. burrowowl Jun 2013 #175

woo wins the thread LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #165

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #25

K&R /nt think Jun 2013 #31

Ahhhh (sigh) Thank you Pres Jimmy Carter! ReRe Jun 2013 #34

Snowden wanted a national discussion Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #39

K&R! Great to see President Carter and his support of civil liberties quinnox Jun 2013 #40

Proud supporter here. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #42

+1 Go Vols Jun 2013 #103

kcik Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #45

That only confirms to me what I have believed for decades. zeemike Jun 2013 #46

When the character smearing comes out, I tend to think it a distraction. Pholus Jun 2013 #58

I Stand With Jimmy Carter! Herlong Jun 2013 #79

K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #49

are there seriously people on DU who do not think the invasion of human rights and American privacy Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #52

Temporarily. At least until a Republican controls the NSA again. Pholus Jun 2013 #56

that is what is has me banging my head against the wall . Being called a libertarian or paulbot Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #68

Yeah, I thought Democrats were united by their values but that was shook Pholus Jun 2013 #88

Shock indeed!! They don't even believe in freedom and constitutional democracy except when they can Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #99

There is seriously a lot of propaganda on DU. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #97

I agree with Jimmy that it appears to have gone too far.. anyone can see that. DCBob Jun 2013 #57

So you think its necessary to go too far? NoOneMan Jun 2013 #70

I said it "appears" to have gone too far. DCBob Jun 2013 #72

Necesary and legal are both arbitrary concepts NoOneMan Jun 2013 #74

Sorry, but there are lots of critical issues that arent simply right or wrong. DCBob Jun 2013 #75

I hate to say it, but your posts are classics of citizens who do live nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #76

WTF?? DCBob Jun 2013 #77

Nope, just happened to see this exchange nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #78

Good to hear. DCBob Jun 2013 #81

Hey, I am stuck on scanner traffic nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #84

Yeah, I heard that.. DCBob Jun 2013 #85

I have the opinion that "legal and necessary" are not sufficient justifications NoOneMan Jun 2013 #83

Of course its relevant. DCBob Jun 2013 #89

No, its political rhetoric NoOneMan Jun 2013 #91

I think many are ready to have that dialogue regardless of what side they are on now. DCBob Jun 2013 #93

I think that the all-encompassing collection of electronic communications JDPriestly Jun 2013 #143

How can it be too far and necessary and legal? morningfog Jun 2013 #172

here we go again... DCBob Jun 2013 #173

So you disagree with Carter. He didn't use any weasel words. morningfog Jun 2013 #174

When the chips are down, President Carter speaks the unvarnished truth. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #60

K&R! DeSwiss Jun 2013 #71

If only Savannahmann Jun 2013 #80

And pretty much all the reason he got such a bad rap in the media. nt Pholus Jun 2013 #92

K & R AzDar Jun 2013 #90

Opps! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #96

K&R marions ghost Jun 2013 #98

kick ....n/t Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #100

kick Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #102

kick Zorra Jun 2013 #105

and another kick Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #106

Good For Jimmy speaking out Go Vols Jun 2013 #111

K&R bobduca Jun 2013 #112

K and R senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #115

I stand with Pres Carter, Ms. Plame, Mr. Wilson, Rep Grayson, Sen Wyden, Sen Udall, and against rhett o rick Jun 2013 #122

Good point Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #154

Of course the Corp-Media aligns with the authoritarians. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #155

Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #123

Longest living ex-president ever Faygo Kid Jun 2013 #124

I knew my avatar could be counted on to say the right thing carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #127

Thank You President Carter cantbeserious Jun 2013 #128

The first and most honest man I ever voted for . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #129

I also Go Vols Jun 2013 #134

What does this Georgia Bigot know about anything? Racist! Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #133

Got a link Go Vols Jun 2013 #135

Here's a link for you: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sarcasm Silent3 Jun 2013 #137

Pro Tip Go Vols Jun 2013 #139

Calling Carter a bigot is similar to calling Bernie Sanders a teabagger. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #142

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #148

Carter FTW! blackspade Jun 2013 #145

Jimmy Carter, the most "real" person to be president... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #146

I hear that Jimmy isn't very nice to his neighbors... reformist2 Jun 2013 #149

K&R rosesaylavee Jun 2013 #150

Thank you Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #153

K&R midnight Jun 2013 #158

I heard that if you support what Snowden or Greenwald did, you should be banned from DU. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #161

Lol! That would leave a very small contingent then n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #170

knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #169

k&r for James Earl Carter, Jr. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #176