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It IS criminal and it needs to stop. Th1onein Jun 2013 #1
The nice thing about Op-Ed pieces is that the newspaper can't fire the writer(s) 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #2
CRIMES BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #16
Interesting, but inherently flawed. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #3
THIS 'data collection' consists of monitoring who, when and how often I phone or email 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #5
I'll say it one last time. Then I'm done. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #10
It's a pity that reverse phone directories don't still exist 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15
Wow! You should go to work for the government! Th1onein Jun 2013 #12
Except for me and the courts. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #17
Of course the "law is legal". The interpretation by the government may not be. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #21
No... Hydra Jun 2013 #23
Justice Department Fights Release of Secret Court Opinion Finding Unconstitutional Surveillance PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #26
Things that make you go, "Hmmmm." bvar22 Jun 2013 #41
Things that make you go "D'oh". OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #49
The courts have not ruled on this brand new handy, dandy INTERPRETATION of the law. Th1onein Jun 2013 #53
There ain't no fuck in chocolate! OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #54
??? kentuck Jun 2013 #56
Google broken? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #57
It's an old joke... Melinda Jun 2013 #66
Census data collection is not INVOLUNTARY and SECRET. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #18
"Refusing or neglecting to answer the census is punishable by fines of $100, OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #55
It so happens that I worked for the Census this last time, Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #62
I'm not sure what your point is. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #64
of course it's surveillance. Even they say it is. cali Jun 2013 #19
If it's not surveillance? kentuck Jun 2013 #42
No, it's not suveillance. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #59
yes. That and the cheer they are leading. kentuck Jun 2013 #60
Who are they? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #61
Seems opinions are all GreenSnowdenWald have left. railsback Jun 2013 #4
They also printed the leaks of another whistle blower. One Daniel Ellsberg. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #6
Ellsberg release the Pentagon Papers in 1971 railsback Jun 2013 #11
I seem to recall someone once saying that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat Th1onein Jun 2013 #13
Ellsberg also supports Manning and Snowden and their efforts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #14
FYI - it was actually an "op-ed" piece, not an official NYTimes Editorial. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #7
Yes, 'deemed' by the NY Times railsback Jun 2013 #9
So where do you get your news from? Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #25
FYI railsback Jun 2013 #29
So? Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #33
Expected the blank look. railsback Jun 2013 #36
Pardon? nt Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #37
So now the evil NYTimes is "The Issue"? 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #34
Yeah, I forgot to cherry pick my messenger attack railsback Jun 2013 #35
Forgetting appears to be your forte. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #63
My disagreement comes from the notion that phone numbers are private bhikkhu Jun 2013 #8
"It’s time to call the N.S.A.’s mass surveillance programs what they are: criminal." DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #20
"Congressional watchdogs — with a few exceptions, like Senator Rand Paul . . . " ucrdem Jun 2013 #22
Eerrr. aarrghhh... 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #27
K&R marions ghost Jun 2013 #24
knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #28
Interesting video link 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #46
K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #30
a very important article Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #31
The NY Times?!! kentuck Jun 2013 #32
This needs to stay on top. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #38
Thanks. YES. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #45
This is no more sophisticated than right wingers declaring the EPA or OSHA or IRS to be "criminal." treestar Jun 2013 #39
Two lawyers from excellent schools marions ghost Jun 2013 #48
Where are all the rebuttals?? kentuck Jun 2013 #40
Well, the post #39 above yours, sums it up. That's all they got. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #44
kr PufPuf23 Jun 2013 #43
K & R L0oniX Jun 2013 #47
K&R 99Forever Jun 2013 #50
Uh oh. Guess the Army Times won't be carrying the story. Guess the Pentagon will cut NYT from silvershadow Jun 2013 #51
B,but if Greenwald + Nader and Snowden=narcissistic traitor, then... Bonobo Jun 2013 #52
did you mean marions ghost Jun 2013 #65
Yep. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #67
K&R marions ghost Jun 2013 #68
K+R sibelian Jun 2013 #58
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #69
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #70
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