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In reply to the discussion: Plame and Wilson: The NSA's metastasised intelligence-industrial complex is ripe for abuse [View all]cui bono
(19,926 posts)75. So you think every employee/contractor of the NSA needs a warrant to simply do their job?
Wow. You're really stretching it there. They are acting under orders because of a supposedly legal warrant already, why would Snowden need to get his own warrant?
And btw... I believe even Snowden says he broke the law (not what you are accusing him of though, breaking the law by leaking classified information about the operation itself), if he hasn't said it directly it is clear that he fled for a reason. As Greenwald said in the clip with Gregory, he acted out of conscience, he felt he had an obligation to tell the American people what was going on. Do you know what the term whistleblower means?
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Plame and Wilson: The NSA's metastasised intelligence-industrial complex is ripe for abuse [View all]
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
OP
Which is why openly discussing such programs before implementation is important.
Pholus
Jun 2013
#12
Have you seen the imaginary bullshit going on right here? It's right here in this thread.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#106
Who is smearing them? They get to the point -I- make which is the import of attacking privatization
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#105
"We are now dealing with a vast intelligence-industrial complex that is largely unaccountable..."
Pholus
Jun 2013
#108
This is like ones brain, we don't know how it works but most of us use our brains. Many don't know
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#14
So your stance is "I always trust my government, they always get it right"?
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#15
You are not reading properly or you are putting your own spin on what I posted. You may not know
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#18
No, I'm more concerned than ever that you will allow a government to do anything
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#21
Were you keeping up with events when the Patriot Act was passed? If the senators did not know this
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#24
" Wiretapping has been occurring for years also, this is not new, and requires a warrant."
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#37
It was abused, ergo Patriot Act to provide oversight and FISA Court was to decide on request
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#39
You are telling me there is a law, and I am telling you it looks like the law is being ABUSED.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#40
WTH, if the issue is the warrant then you dont have an issue, this was issued in FISA court. Dont
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#44
Doubted your knowledge of the warrant, you talked a big talk but you could not produce evidence
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#56
I read the warrant. It violates both the FISA law and the Constitution. The Constitution, you know
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#58
You should be really pissed at Snowden for spying on your phone call records anjust might have those
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#60
How ironic that you would say Snowden didnt have a warrant. He had the protection of the same
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#64
How ironic Snowden went to a news media to reveal information. If the Fourth Amendment requires a
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#72
So you think every employee/contractor of the NSA needs a warrant to simply do their job?
cui bono
Jun 2013
#75
NSA has a warrant to collect records, when Snowden re harvested the data from NSA then he needed a
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#96
His job was to spy on American. That's what Booz Allen does. If you torture and kill him
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#93
His job was not to reveal information of the operation and of the information collected by NSA which
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#97
Everyone gave up their 'freedom' as soon as they started handing out their information to everyone
railsback
Jun 2013
#70
No. Handing out your info to corporations for marketing is completely different than
cui bono
Jun 2013
#76
Yes, indeed. And if DU'ers would get over themselves, they'd see this is the angle of attack.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#107
Agree...the Privatization scheme makes more room for Mischief and outright Plundering
KoKo
Jun 2013
#32
Agreed. So why are we defending corporate persons from the questions we need to ask Snowden & others
patrice
Jun 2013
#52
Yeah, you probably think The PATRIOT Act is used to go after drug users, too.
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#57