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David__77

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1. The Left needs to assume leadership, and isolate the right.

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:20 PM

Jun 2013

The right cries about taxes just like in the US. The left needs to steer this, and ensure that the Workers Party return to its roots, reject neoliberalism, and redirect public funds toward generating real economic development.

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The myth behind Brazil's Lula is crumbling [View all] FarCenter Jun 2013 OP

The Left needs to assume leadership, and isolate the right. David__77 Jun 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jun 2013 #14

I'm trying to catch up with all that's going on in Brazil flamingdem Jun 2013 #2

giving the world cup to brazil was a really bad idea madrchsod Jun 2013 #3

Why? BainsBane Jun 2013 #5

A sky high violent crime rate for starters. hack89 Jun 2013 #25

In Rio, yes BainsBane Jun 2013 #34

Crime in Sao Paulo is extremely high with the same base causes - out of control gangs. hack89 Jun 2013 #35

No doubt BainsBane Jun 2013 #38

To understand Lula you have to have some context of Brazilian history BainsBane Jun 2013 #4

i recently read an article which said that lula = brazilian bourgeosie v. US more than 'left' HiPointDem Jun 2013 #6

Again the issue is context BainsBane Jun 2013 #7

you apparently missed the point. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #8

I did not miss the point BainsBane Jun 2013 #9

oh, you considered that an elaboration? i thought you meant it as a rebuttal. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #10

It was context BainsBane Jun 2013 #11

i didn't think what i wrote was so difficult as to need clarification. local/nationalist bourgeois HiPointDem Jun 2013 #12

of course it wasn't a revolution BainsBane Jun 2013 #13

revolution in the loose sense, as some fundamental change. duh. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #15

If you knew anything about Brazilian history BainsBane Jun 2013 #16

no relationship between knowing something about portuguese history and using the word HiPointDem Jun 2013 #17

and then you would not call it Portuguese history BainsBane Jun 2013 #18

you make no sense whatsoever HiPointDem Jun 2013 #19

I've learnt something from BainsBane in this thread, from well-written posts muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #20

yeah, yeah, usual suspects heard from HiPointDem Jun 2013 #28

Here's a map BainsBane Jun 2013 #30

thanks again teach expert on islam now an expert on brazil my some posters do get around HiPointDem Jun 2013 #31

Yes, some of us read BainsBane Jun 2013 #37

Your interlocutor read an article somewhere that said something alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #21

usual suspects & i made no 'claim'. but par for the usual harassers HiPointDem Jun 2013 #29

Yeah, but I think that was HiPoint's point..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #23

Yeh, it's like a surgeon not getting all the cancer out. If she doesn't get it all out, Zorra Jun 2013 #26

Good metaphor comrade...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #39

He had to operate within Brazil's political context BainsBane Jun 2013 #27

of course that was my point, & anyone could understand it except the personal harrassment HiPointDem Jun 2013 #32

Well I thought it was pretty obvious...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #40

Thanks for the helpful post. Sparky 1 Jun 2013 #41

Thank you BainsBane Jun 2013 #42

Lula's election was huge! His accomplishments are considerable but the people awakened to byeya Jun 2013 #24

I agree BainsBane Jun 2013 #33

So do I. It's a little easier now that 0bama has deployed the military to other parts of the world, byeya Jun 2013 #36

The mass protests are a mixed bunch dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #22

The person who wrote this... ocpagu Aug 2013 #43