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23. K&R n/t

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Plame and Wilson: The NSA's metastasised intelligence-industrial complex is ripe for abuse [View all] muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 OP

Get thee to the greatest page - MUST READ malaise Jun 2013 #1

Huge K&R /nt think Jun 2013 #2

Great article jsr Jun 2013 #3

Vroom! Puglover Jun 2013 #4

All of this is coming from foreign press... nradisic Jun 2013 #5

We lost the "Free Press" to Wall St decade ago FreakinDJ Jun 2013 #6

Foreign Press, yes, but very American names tavalon Jun 2013 #65

Good to hear from these two. Good, too, they point out that the snappyturtle Jun 2013 #7

It will be interesting watching "Democrats" smear THESE two... nt Pholus Jun 2013 #8

They're saying power can be abused - they ARE NOT saying Obama is abusing it. baldguy Jun 2013 #9

Which is why openly discussing such programs before implementation is important. Pholus Jun 2013 #12

Openly discussing such programs is what Congress has done. Repeatedly. baldguy Jun 2013 #13

Somewhat dis·in·gen·u·ous Pholus Jun 2013 #59

Congress, the Courts and the President disagree with you. baldguy Jun 2013 #61

Obama is, unfortunately. tavalon Jun 2013 #66

I needed a good laugh. Thanks! Pholus Jun 2013 #89

The executive branch is abusing its power with this program. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #49

you post highly important points Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #82

Thanks. You might be interested be interested in my JDPriestly Jun 2013 #86

hear hear Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #87

The NSA is not Obama's friend. Ash_F Jun 2013 #79

+1000 FreakinDJ Jun 2013 #10

Have you seen the pretzelizing going on right here? tavalon Jun 2013 #69

"racist!" "Rand Paul supporter!" sibelian Jun 2013 #88

Yeah, me too. tavalon Jun 2013 #98

Have you seen the imaginary bullshit going on right here? It's right here in this thread. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #106

Yes, I know. With this very reply in fact. nt Pholus Jun 2013 #109

Who is smearing them? They get to the point -I- make which is the import of attacking privatization KittyWampus Jun 2013 #105

"We are now dealing with a vast intelligence-industrial complex that is largely unaccountable..." Pholus Jun 2013 #108

out-of-control Intelligence Sector matches our out-of-control FIRE sector... Agony Jun 2013 #11

This is like ones brain, we don't know how it works but most of us use our brains. Many don't know Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #14

So your stance is "I always trust my government, they always get it right"? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #15

You are not reading properly or you are putting your own spin on what I posted. You may not know Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #18

No, I'm more concerned than ever that you will allow a government to do anything muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #21

Were you keeping up with events when the Patriot Act was passed? If the senators did not know this Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #24

" Wiretapping has been occurring for years also, this is not new, and requires a warrant." rhett o rick Jun 2013 #37

It was abused, ergo Patriot Act to provide oversight and FISA Court was to decide on request Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #39

You are telling me there is a law, and I am telling you it looks like the law is being ABUSED. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #40

WTH, if the issue is the warrant then you dont have an issue, this was issued in FISA court. Dont Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #44

Did you read the OP? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #47

Do you know what the request for the warrant contains? Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #48

If you have a point, spit it out. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #51

I guess you don't know what the warrant contains. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #53

I guess you dont have a point. I dont like guessing games. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #54

Doubted your knowledge of the warrant, you talked a big talk but you could not produce evidence Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #56

I read the warrant. It violates both the FISA law and the Constitution. The Constitution, you know rhett o rick Jun 2013 #58

You should be really pissed at Snowden for spying on your phone call records anjust might have those Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #60

How ironic that you would say Snowden didnt have a warrant. He had the protection of the same rhett o rick Jun 2013 #64

How ironic Snowden went to a news media to reveal information. If the Fourth Amendment requires a Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #72

So you think every employee/contractor of the NSA needs a warrant to simply do their job? cui bono Jun 2013 #75

NSA has a warrant to collect records, when Snowden re harvested the data from NSA then he needed a Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #96

His job was to spy on American. That's what Booz Allen does. If you torture and kill him rhett o rick Jun 2013 #93

His job was not to reveal information of the operation and of the information collected by NSA which Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #97

This is true, the REAL story, as Wilson and Plame state railsback Jun 2013 #16

K & R Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #19

Ahhh, I get your point, railsback RobertEarl Jun 2013 #22

Everyone gave up their 'freedom' as soon as they started handing out their information to everyone railsback Jun 2013 #70

No. Handing out your info to corporations for marketing is completely different than cui bono Jun 2013 #76

LOL! railsback Jun 2013 #81

I didn't say that at all. But I'm sure you know that. cui bono Jun 2013 #84

Right. railsback Jun 2013 #94

Snowden is so not the point here tavalon Jun 2013 #67

He exposed a security flaw - himself. railsback Jun 2013 #71

Do you generally consider yourself an intelligent person? tavalon Jun 2013 #73

I'm not the one with the intelligence problem here. railsback Jun 2013 #74

I don't hero worship and my IQ is in the genius range, tavalon Jun 2013 #100

Ok, then I'm a genius, too railsback Jun 2013 #101

This isn't a fight, it's a bullshit game of three card monty tavalon Jun 2013 #103

The 'information' is coming from Snowden railsback Jun 2013 #104

Whatever tavalon Jun 2013 #112

+1 silvershadow Jun 2013 #111

This program is incompatible with our Constitution, that is why. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #50

This program is incompatible with our Constitution. tavalon Jun 2013 #68

911 "over reaction" is a huge understatement. L0oniX Jun 2013 #17

Is this your estimate of those involved in the "cause"? Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #20

K&R n/t myrna minx Jun 2013 #23

IT THE SUBCONTRACTORS cynzke Jun 2013 #25

Yes, indeed. And if DU'ers would get over themselves, they'd see this is the angle of attack. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #107

k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #26

Thank you for posting this. Rec'd. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #27

K&R! jannyk Jun 2013 #28

And it's a new multi-billion dollar private industry. That alone DirkGently Jun 2013 #29

Agree...the Privatization scheme makes more room for Mischief and outright Plundering KoKo Jun 2013 #32

We don't pass many policies that make rich companies lose money. DirkGently Jun 2013 #35

"If you build it, they will..." moondust Jun 2013 #30

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #31

This thread is fantastic Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #33

Excellent article, I couldn't agree more ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #34

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #36

"metastasized intelligence-industrial complex" marions ghost Jun 2013 #38

We can hear you now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #41

K&R! mia Jun 2013 #42

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #43

thank you. So much chaos, few opinions I want to focus on BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2013 #45

Has anybody come up with a reasonable solution thucythucy Jun 2013 #46

There is absolutely no evidence that PRISM prevented any attacks at all. Ash_F Jun 2013 #83

Agreed. So why are we defending corporate persons from the questions we need to ask Snowden & others patrice Jun 2013 #52

K&R idwiyo Jun 2013 #55

Yeah, you probably think The PATRIOT Act is used to go after drug users, too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #57

k and fucking r RainDog Jun 2013 #62

"unless we establish ground rules ... national security interests and potential political chicanery" Coyotl Jun 2013 #63

Oh shit better throw Plame in Gitmo! Ash_F Jun 2013 #77

Seriously I want to throw this in the face of every single person... Ash_F Jun 2013 #78

Plame/Wilson article ReRe Jun 2013 #80

The Corporate-Government Corridors of Smoke and Mirrors LarryNM Jun 2013 #85

Valerie Plame worked for the CIA for 20 years. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #90

What I find rather amazing... Helen Borg Jun 2013 #91

Several things here. timdog44 Jun 2013 #92

The "media" purposely dotymed Jun 2013 #95

I worry for some of my fellow DUers tavalon Jun 2013 #99

Ripe enough to smell bad and draw flies. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #102

The NSA gets punked felix_numinous Jun 2013 #110